Going out on a limb. There AIN'T any WMD, you stupid shits.

[Doctor_Goo_Fee]

As I posted in another WMD thread-- I think that the significant thing at this point is that the Saddam Hussein/Baath Iraqis have NOT USED any biological, chemical or nuclear weapons against allied forces.

This means that either they don’t have any WMD, or that they had the weapons but chose not to use them.

(There is also the super-slim chance that they had the weapons and wanted to use them, but were thwarted by the USA and/or The SuperFriends. I think we can dismiss this for now because it’s just not that hard to shoot off a few rounds of poison artillery shells.)

IMO the whole argument over “Did they have WMD or not?” is overshadowed by the fact the Iraqis chose not to use the weapons.

Did someone at the White House overestimate the bloodlust of the Baath? Maybe the cradle of civilization is more civilized than W thought.

[Doctor_Goo_Fee]

or to put it another way–

either the Iraqis chose to get rid of all their WMD

or, the Iraqis chose not to use such weapons EVEN AS THERE NATION WAS BEING OVERRUN BY THE INFIDEL!

either way, Dubya cums of as a putz. (or worse)

[Doctor_Goo_Fee]

‘there’ should of course be ‘their’

but I meant to type ‘cums’.

[Mr.Svinlesha]

originally posted by Shrub:

I think that we believe there are chemical weapons in Syria, for example. And we will – each situation will require a different response and, of course, we’re – first things first.

The man is too stupid to string two complete sentences together, even in his mother tongue. It’s amazing his brain generates enough electricity to keep his mouth going.

[Coldfire]

Stupid or not, if he really means to imply he’s willing to attack Syria as well, then the shit is definitely going to hit the fan.

One attack on an Arab nation can be explained to even the most radical Muslim nations eventually: but a series of attacks on various Arab nations is just begging for a response. Possibly in the form of terrorism on US soil.

Which is not to say that Syria has clean hands: just that attacking it right after Iraq has been cleared would be a bad, BAD idea.

[wring]

*Originally posted by Coldfire *
**Which is not to say that Syria has clean hands: just that attacking it right after Iraq has been cleared would be a bad, BAD idea. **

I suspect that our first clue that’s the plan will come in the form of a pit thread, perhaps by a certain cold poster.

[Pedro]

I was watching Bush’s speech this morning and his stuttering gives the worst impression. Anyway the USA have chemical weapons so why not Syria? Iraq had a UN resolution but that’s no longer the case here.

[RickJay]

*Originally posted by Coldfire *
**Stupid or not, if he really means to imply he’s willing to attack Syria as well, then the shit is definitely going to hit the fan. **

Question for the pro-war folks:

How many countries have to be invaded, and how many people killed, before we’re going to find the weapons of mass destruction that presented a danger to the United States?

I’d just like a rough estimate.

[sailor]

*Originally posted by Mr. Svinlesha *
**The man is too stupid to string two complete sentences together, even in his mother tongue. It’s amazing his brain generates enough electricity to keep his mouth going. **

Pretty much what this article says:

http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101030414/cklein.html
He seems imprisoned in a bleak, hortatory rhetoric of simple sentences and simpler ideas. Freedom good. Tyranny bad. We Tarzan, world Jane.

[skankweirdall]

*Originally posted by RickJay *
**Question for the pro-war folks:

How many countries have to be invaded, and how many people killed, before we’re going to find the weapons of mass destruction that presented a danger to the United States?

I’d just like a rough estimate. **

I’d say 4 and 10,000.
Seriously though, I was onboard for Iraq. I’m not onboard for any others at this point.

[Desmostylus]

And apparently, some people think it would be okay to find chemical weapons, and then destroy the evidence. US forces test canisters for chemical weapons

Foreign Minister Alexander Downer says the overthrow of the Iraqi Government means the UN needs a new partner for inspections.

He says this will require changes to Security Council resolution 1441.

Mr Downer says in the meantime inspectors - including United States, British and Australian experts - may have to destroy the evidence.

“Whether there are UN people there or not, that won’t be central to whether these materials can be destroyed but that might give some people a sense of greater confidence that they have been destroyed,” he said.

“Though I wouldn’t have any doubt about the desire of the Americans to destroy these materials.”

[elucidator]

Syria!? He wouldn’t dare! No way. Can’t happen, nobody, but nobody, is that goddam brain dead stupid! NOBODY!

[pantom]

4 in 10 odds, luc, is what I saw some “expert” or other give on CNN just this morning.
You might be able to make a profitable bet on this in Vegas soon.
From the POV of going after state sponsors of terror, Syria is way up there on the list.
From the POV of being a tyranny (Operation Syrian Freedom?), it’s way up there on the list.
From the POV of having WMDs, not, but so what, eh?
From the POV of Bush the Unready being brain dead, it’s really way up on the list.
Don’t bet against it.

[samclem]

I can remember being at a party and listening to Lyndon Johnson addressing the nation, telling us about the Gulf of Tonkin, and wondering about my friends who were afraid of getting drafted. I was in college, so I wasn’t afraid at that point. Not for my personal safety. But I was concerned for my friends.

Now., today, I’m concerned for my personal safety, and that of my children.

If Mr. Bush listens to his advisers, and invades another country, then we might as well bend over and kiss our asses goodbye.

I was in the March on Washington during Vietnam, and I’ll be there again if this dolt dares to listen to the Perles and Wolfowitzes of this adminstration.

Hey, Library! Please move Terry Southern’s books to the non-fiction section! :eek:

[woolly]

Syria? Waffor? Tthey didn’t even get a mention in the Axis of Evil. Sorry, it’s just too much off message … no, it’s gotta be Iran … so much easier … just take all the arguments, press releases and official reference documents they used last time, apply couple of dabbs of LiquidPaper, change the “q” into an “n” and hey presto raison d’etre, with a global precedent. Much more efficient. Rupert Murdoch would appreciate the typesetting savings as well. And less chance somebody Stateside might make an unfortunate GPS targetting error thinking the capital of Syria is Syracuse.

Kim Jung Il is probably feeling very pleased with himself right now.

[Desmostylus]

No, wooly, try to keep up. It’s no longer Saddam Hussein’s regime being referred to. It’s the Baath party regime. They were the real bad guys. And Syria might be harbouring them.

And, wait a minute, Syria is ruled by the Baath party as well.

It’s terrorism! It’s Saddama Baath Laden! Quick! Invade!

[woolly]

Point noted Desmostylus

Baath party regime … right … got it … now is that the Executive, the Caucus, the card carrying membership or the 100% who voted for them?

BTW “wooly” … an invasion by the consonant pedants may be imminent.

[Desmostylus]

It wasn’t intentional that time, woolly. Sometimes I really do make typos.

[woolly]

Enough of this soft soap, I need to know which of these evil Ba’athist need to be shish kebabad, and if it ain’t them all, how do I tell the difference?

In anticipation,
vvoolly

[Desmostylus]

Well, it’s similar to the famous comment of a noted jurist: “It’s the Constitution, it’s Mabo, it’s justice, it’s law, it’s the vibe”.

“It’s terrorism, it’s Saddam, it’s Baath, it’s Ossama, it’s the vibe”.

And I’d suggest that the US government has precisely the same abilities as the jurist I quoted earlier in knowledge of the law and in being able to establish a solid case.

But, fortunately, Dennis Denuto didn’t control the US military.