GOP still trending to win Senate

ISIS. There is nothing in the Constitution that says a foreign enemy has to be a nation-state. ISIS has an army, you can make war against an army.

So, they’ll vote for a declaration of war against ISIS after the midterms, but not before?

And these are the guys who have America’s best interests as their priority. Uh huh.

Would a GOP majority in the Senate lead to another government shutdown?

Democrats are saying yes, Mitch McConnell is saying no, however, he has promised a tempestuous and confrontational final two years of the Obama presidency should he become Senate majority leader.

Louisville Courier Journal

Think Progress is more accusatory than the middle of the road Louisville paper.

After Promising The End Of Government Shutdowns, Mitch McConnell Threatens Another Government Shutdown

Sounds like the Prez could use a lie-item veto.

Just like the Barbary Pirates. The tradition is an old one.

They’ll vote for a declaration if the President asks for one. And I’d imagine Democrats would as well. My point was that instead of being confrontational with the President, both Democrats and Republicans should focus on winning the war that is on the verge of escalating. It is starting to look like that will be the main issue of Obama’s last two years.

Yes, let’s get involved in another land war in Asia. ALWAYS a good idea!

You act as if we can choose. We can’t. You’ll notice they took a picture of the White House and posted it? You prefer your President alive, no?

Someone taking a photo in a public place is a meaningful threat? Literally thousands of people take pictures from the spot that photo was taken. I think our president is pretty safe.

I once visited Fort Knox. I hope I’m not considered a threat to the U.S.'s gold reserve.

In any case, the argument here isn’t about the wisdom of going to war in Iraq and Syria. That decision has already been made. The issue is whether you’ll support your President. The Republicans will.

Sure we can choose. We can decide ISIS is just the latest in a long line of overhyped assholes in the Middle East that we don’t give a shit about unless they do something really stupid, like invade Israel or Saudi Arabia or one of those other oil rich despots whose oil we love so much. Easy-peasy!

I didn’t support President Bush when he invaded Iraq. Really. BAD idea then BAD idea now. In fact, I think President Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld should be sent to the Hague to be tried as war criminals. I TOTALLY support that, and consider myself a loyal and patriotic American for doing so. Because I don’t support the individuals who run the government of the US, I support the principals that this country stands for … and invading countries that pose no military threat to us on faked up pretexts violates the hell out of American principles of fairness and justice.

If Obama decides he wants to jump into Iraq, I’m not backing him. Gotta have a better reason than he has now. Let Saudi Arabia and Israel do some fighting … they seem to be the ones most endangered.

If he’s doing the right thing, of course we will. But our loyalty is to our country and our world, not to any individual. We’re patriots, not idolators.

One word: Benghazi.
One more: Impeachment.

Republicans don’t like battles where we lose. As long as Obama is a winner, he’ll have their full backing.

And please, let’s dispense with this “I won’t back the President”. You won’t oppose him in any way that actually matters. If anti-war Rand Paul runs against hawk Hillary Clinton, with Rand promising to get us out of Iraq and Syria and Clinton pledging to get us in deeper, you’ll vote for Hillary while barely holding your nose. Every single one of you.

Is *that *what McCain says on all the talk shows? :smiley:

Yes, because war isn’t the only issue.

And let’s worry about paying a few hundred million to feed our own hungry people, but let’s fund another trillion for this “adventure”.

I rather doubt it. Over the last five years it’s pretty much been scorched earth on the part of the GOP. I think they’d rather see America lose a war than the president get credit for a victorious one.

Look at the behind the back foreign dealings by Nixon (balking the Viet Nam peace talks) in 1968 and the behind the back dealing by Reagan with Iran to cause the hostage negotiations to fail in 1980.