No, they took over the highway and did things that, had something gone wrong, could have caused a rider or debris to enter oncoming traffic. They illegally took over part of the public thoroughfare and then endangered everyone else around them.
Bull dust, there was plenty of space around and really popping a wheelie is a death sentence?
First, are you sure you’ve actually read everything I wrote in this thread? Because you’re arguing two things against me here, and only one of them is a position I’ve really taken.
If you can correctly discern which is which, I’ll be happy to continue disagreeing on what we actually disagree on, at least until we both have said our piece.
**Got a crossbow? Aim for the spokes. **
Always been that way, always will be.
There are very few lessons learned as well as a biker spreading his face across 30 feet of asphalt.
You mean like every army, ever?
I remember a thread on this incident, and all I could think was that if I was the driver with my kid in the car I would have been very nervous when it appeared I was being blocked in, robbery or kidnapping who the fuck knows, you don’t do that to a person.
I was once caught in a protest that blocked the roads that quickly turned to riot and robbing trapped car passengers with threat of gasoline and lighter. It was pretty terrifying, I maced a few people blocking my escape out the window and when they cleared ran like hell since it wasn’t my car. All I could think was thank god my kid wasn’t with me. Cops arrived within ten minutes and put a stop to it, which goes to show you can’t depend on police for protection.
One day a some members of a “gang” pulling these kind of stunts are going to get shot, and I don’t have much sympathy for them.
How many license plates do you see in that video?
Yes, and I can’t figure out what you think you are adding to the conversation. Lots of horrible things are “human.” It doesn’t make it acceptable. And it sure doesn’t make the behavior just “not ideal.”
The idea that a gang can take over and not get in trouble is seriously disturbing. It’s fucking anarchy taking over our government. Society exists because we stopped giving into that stupid impulse.
The whole point of a Pit thread or any other rant is to complain about something bad that shouldn’t be. The fact that the world is like that isn’t news, but the fucking point of the OP. It shouldn’t be that way.
And neither should people like you go around belittling concerns because that’s the way the world works. It’s a morally and intellectually bankrupt idea. The same argument could be used about any social injustice ever.
“Discrimination against people who are different than you may not the loftiest, ideal behavior, but it is very human.” This is 100% true. So the fuck what?
Huh?? Ok, then tell me how fucking fast they would have needed to arrive and put a stop to it in order to show you that police are dependable? I am not arguing that they are or aren’t, I’m just bemused by your comment here. Do you think the police have teleportation devices?
Yea I was thinking that could justify anything, it is pretty human to be lazy and avoid work so hey the cop who killed someone he knew was a career criminal and planted a gun on him is a very human failing right?
If a cop doesn’t think he can safety restore order in a situation, he has a handy little radio which he can use to request backup no? All the way to mobilizing the national guard.
Yes, we know why. Because they are putting their own lives and well being above those of others. What we don’t get is why people think this is acceptable behavior for the very people we trust to serve and protect us.
A cop is not a thug picking a fight. The fight was already picked, and it is a cops job to defend that person. Whether he does it by fighting himself, if that’s all he can do, or he calls for backup and keeps an eye on the situation. Or he can make sure he gets enough information that the people can be brought to justice. You don’t fucking slink away like a coward–you stay and do what you can.
If you don’t, you don’t deserve to be wearing that uniform.
To paraphrase The Wild One:
What did you all want that cop to do?
Arrest all thirty or forty of them or however many their are?
At any rate, with regard to the incident in Milpitas, CA I wouldn’t be so quick to call these bikers a gang. Reckless for sure, but not a gang.
you asked why the officer didn’t tase one of the bikers (bro.) I don’t know if you’ve ever ridden a motorcycle, but assuming the officer could hit a guy with a taser, he’d likely cause the guy to fling himself high-side off the bike which is sure to break a bunch of bones and organs. So yeah, you knock someone off of a moving bike, you’re essentially trying to kill them.
any motorcycle wheel is strong enough to snap a crossbow bolt like a twig. They’re thin, carbon fiber tubes. Even a regular arrow would do nothing. Besides, Mythbusters already covered this.
I don’t think it was a slam on the police for being “undependable,” but an acknowledgement that they can’t be everywhere all the time, and can’t travel instantly to the scene of a crime in progress. There’s a (somewhat trite) saying, “When seconds count, the police are minutes away.”
Why not?
SnowboarderBo
I agree with you 100% here. However, I don’t seriously expect the bikers to be stopped or pursued.
Pursuing or attempting to stop the bikers could have caused major traffic incidents and caused terrible destruction.
What should have happened was a road block, and all the bikers charged with evading the law, reckless driving, speeding, and anything else the officers can cite them for. If severe enough they lose their licenses, and if they don’t have licenses I think it should be prison time.
The problem I have is that they are putting honest drivers who need to commute to live their lives in a dangerous situation all to chase a thrill and look cool. And I get it, honestly I do! It’s crazy cool how fast they are going, the thrill must be truly exhilarating and they must have brass balls or dead brains to do it. But go on a fucking race track you selfish pricks. Your putting innocent families at risk of catastrophic injury and death to get your adrenaline junky rocks off.
I think your view of what the role and obligation of police are is different than what their view is. Do you expect police to value their lives less than others, and that’s part of the job?
‘Picking a fight’ was a poor word choice on my part. A better way to say it would be ‘choosing an engagement’. Snowboarder Bo suggested many things that could have been done, some reasonable, others not as much. So yes, call for backup, gather information, etc. Tasing and laying down spike strips, that’s absurd. Not only in its impact, but in the practicality of it.
Depends where you are I suppose. There have been other challenges that have failed, but in LA - they are essentially unenforceable.
BigT, darlin’, bless your heart, The Pit can be all things to all people. All I’m saying is that Snowboarder Bo’s way of expressing his outrage has me confused. Saying that the police should be braver or more effective wouldn’t have gotten me to respond. Saying that one is confused because they aren’t, well, that strikes me as odd. There’s nothing confusing about it.
A friend of mine reposted this video on Facebook and the comments at the original posting are ridiculous. One person even referred to it as a “safety in numbers” victory for nikers. Yeah, because doing stunts on the freeway is safe. :dubious:
It’s a bunch of people making a concerted effort to break the law. What would you call them?