Yes, of course. What we do is change it to a generic one that must be changed immediately to your own NEW pwd to get to your stuff.
Or, If you just fat fingered it too many times, IS can take the block off and let you try again.
“Hired and Non-Owned Automobile Liability Coverage and Hired Auto Physical Damage Coverage” on our Business Owners’ policy, covers use of personal vehicle on company business. No idea if running personal errands for boss counts.
This woman may not have it, but it’s a pretty standard component of a business policy.
That’s what we do too. It’s also the generic password a brand new employee is assigned when they first start (and they have to change it on their first login to actually get into the system).
I think that’s a best practice most organizations use.
I was thinking along these lines as well. If the employee in this scenario were incapacitated, what would the boss do then? They’d have to bring in an expert to untangle passwords and combinations and what-have-you to get the business running. The fact that this boss failed to learn these key elements of the business should be no one else’s responsibility but her own. That the employee is not incapacitated does not absolve her from that responsibility.
But, as mentioned, the right thing to do here was to give that info to the incompetent boss and move on with life.
Regarding the email password, I wonder if the email account is with Gmail, AOL, Outlook.com or another service. In that case, it may not be easy for the employer to reset the password.
Don’t play games. Give old boss the passwords, etc that she needs and move on. Forget about “wrongful termination” law suits. Are you really willing to pursue that, or does it just feel good to think about ? (Not that there’s anything wrong with fantasizing about hauling her ass into court). Your wife has a new job. Move on and put this behind you.
Hey, OP, Welcome to the Board! T’was a fine first post.
This blew my mind as well. I can’t imagine any school releasing a kid to some rando these days. Even if the kid swore up and down they knew them as their Mom’s employee. Not gonna happen. What was this woman thinking?
Are we assuming that the boss either hadn’t, or wasn’t prepared to, clear the OP’s wife TO pick up the child at daycare?
I was assuming that part was either solved or readily could be.
What she might have been thinking is that she could call that day rather than giving written instructions in advance - whether that would have worked in this situation, I don’t know.
Barring any information from the OP to demonstrate otherwise, given the general arrogance and idiocy on the part of the new boss that was described in the OP, I think that that is a safe assumption on our part.
Fuck you, fuck the op’s boss with 128 cactusses.
You either get to be cool and “fire” your employees, or you get to bid with everybody else on silkroad for your password.
More power to the ex-employees.
Moderating:
This isn’t the pit. Don’t attack other posters.
Hidden by What Exit? Very off-topic
I may be mistaken but I think the librarian was cursing at the OP’s previous employer, for some reason I don’t get. Not that it makes a difference but just saying.
Hidden by What Exit? Very off-topic
They did that, too. If they were only intending to curse at the employer, the way it was phrased doesn’t look that way to me. The “F*** you,” combined with it being in reply to another poster, which was then followed by “f*** the op’s boss” makes the first part of it come across as being directed to that poster, IMO.
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Do not discuss moderation in thread. I’m going to hide both posts.
Also @The_Librarian, please don’t discuss selling passwords, that is an illegal act.
And please no in thread apologies either. Please get back on topic.
@What_Exit My apologies, I should know better.
I don’t know if this was mentioned but she should give the combination and passwords in a verifiable way. If you really have an attorney, it may be worth a few ducats to go through them to avoid, “You never sent them to me.”
I disagree at a conceptual level. No, it’s not a 13th Amendment slavery or owning a sweatshop and threatening your workers with INS if they protest their $2 per day. I just think that in the at-will relationship where they can fire you and you can quit for any reason that all of the power is in the employer’s hands. It is by no means equitable by a long shot. The company views you as a commodity that is easily replaced while your job is rent, food, car payments, utilities, etc. to you.
You were helpful in the thread I started of “Is this constructive dismissal?” and the answer was they can bully you, lie, give inaccurate reviews, change your duties, etc. but it is not constructive dismissal and you can always quit if you don’t like it. Luckily she found a better job a week before her self-imposed deadline to quit but if she hadn’t we would have lost her income and the consequences to her leaving her employer were
None at all
You work for a government? I don’t know about your state but in mine it is very easy for anyone to pull government (read school teacher for me) emails. Piss someone off and assume someone will get all of your employment record (minus SSN and things covered by HIPAA and I think address) and work emails. No one in their right mind would send anything personal through a government (or school) email so of course 99.8% of the workers do.
I dunno… I’ve worked at a lot of jobs over the years. I’ve never been fired. Twice I was in a temporary job that I’d hoped would turn permanent, but it didn’t. One other time I was laid off (as was most of the company) ahead of the company being bought by a larger company. (I later worked for the company that bought my old company, doing the same work.)
In almost every job I’ve ever had, I left of my own accord. Either I didn’t like how I was treated, or I had a better opportunity. But time after time again it was my decision.
It’s hard to say that there was any kind of power disparity. On multiple occasions they tried to offer me incentives to stay, so clearly it wasn’t a situation where they didn’t care about me leaving.
I mean, to be honest, it was my employer that was easily replaced.
Also, in my current position, I can leave at any time. But if they wanted to get rid of me, it would be difficult, since I’m in a union. The disparity in my case, in a very real way, is very strongly in my favor. (I’ll admit that’s not a normal situation, though, and it is the only job I’ve ever had that was like that.)
Me too, and yes anyone can request information regarding a particular subject and we are required by law to comply (depending on the request; some information is classified to be too sensitive to be shared with the public).
And even if you work for a private entity, your emails belong to your employer. I worked at a job where we had some employees engaged in deliberate sabotage, and I was tasked with setting up a filter on our mail server to seek for certain keywords and phrases, and capture copies of any messages that had those things in them to be evaluated later. And that’s all perfectly appropriate, because there is no presumption of privacy regarding your company email and other communications. If you want your communications to be private, use your own personal email or phone.