The debt ceiling deal couldn’t have passed without Dem support.
It’s hard to say what counts as a historical precedent. Representative Preston Brooks beat the shit out of Senator Charles Sumner on the floor of the Senate and the House failed to expel him for it. I feel like pulling a fire alarm, while juvenile, probably doesn’t exceed that on the “expulsion-worthy” scale.
I agree it was dumb, but I don’t see it as a fundamental attack on democracy. There were Members of the House who sought to overturn the outcome of the Presidential election, and they’re getting on just fine.
That was the closest one I could think of, and wasn’t it pre-Civil War? I am hoping our standards for decorum have risen since then.
Reading the Wikipedia article, there was an attempt to oust him from Congress, and at least one historian credits this act of violence with moving the country even closer towards Civil War.
A mistake doesn’t rise to the level of dumb.
Bowman had no motive to disrupt the vote – he voted yes, just like every other Democrat save one.
The allegation is that he was trying to delay the vote — Democrats had just gotten the text of the resolution and were trying to scrutinize it for any Republican poison pills.
I’m not saying he did it deliberately, but he definitely did have motive to delay (not entirely disrupt) the vote. Democrats were trying to get time to read through the bill before voting on it. Jeffries took his magic minute to speak for over an hour as a stall tactic to give his members time to read and consider the bill.
Ninja’ed by flurb. Hello!
Ignoring the fire alarm for a while, I understand the Senate has already passed a similar bill with the main difference being the Ukraine funding. So I’d expect that the two bills would go to a reconciliation committee to hammer out a compromise bill. Perhaps some Ukraine support will be added back into that compromise.
I doubt it, because they’ve got only until midnight tonight to get something passed, and the House already went home for the weekend.
No, the Senate is going to pass the House bill as-is.
edit: ninjaed back, @MulderMuffin — touché!
So does this mean that Ukraine gets no funding from the US until and unless a next bill passes with such contained by that November kick the can down the road some more date?
Or does Biden have executive order means at his disposal?
Is this because there are essentially three parties in the House at the moment…. (D, R and T)
It sounds like a minority government in a parliamentary democracy, with the far right Trumpist Party holding control.
Normally in a situation like this in another system, this sort of unstable situation would often lead to a vote of no confidence and a quick election so the voters can tell them to sort their shit out.
26 members of the Freedom Caucus voted against the debt ceiling bill. It passed.
I expect many or most of the FC voted against the CR today, but I haven’t seen the vote totals anywhere. It passed.
This doesn’t sound like the T faction growing stronger or being in control.
If McCarthy holds his gavel, which I consider quite likely, they are further marginalized.
I believe most US support has been weapon transfers from existing DoD stockpiles. I don’t see why that won’t continue.
So the government will continue lurching along for another 45 days while Congress goes on its flailing way trying to pass another funding bill in its usual dysfunctional muddle. That should get us up to, lemme see…
Oh! Happy Thanksgiving!
But at least we won’t be missing Fat Bear Week.
Nasty of them. Maybe the Senate should have gone home last night to stymie this.
They had to strip the Ukraine funding out, or else Paul would have denied unanimous consent in the Senate:
Rand Paul’s neighbor needs to hit him harder next time, maybe aim for the head…
If I’m counting correctly, that’s 68 "Aye"s. No shutdown.