I believe that I have found the proof that most Jews who died during the Holocaust were entirely innocent.
Anti-Semitism is fueled by rage and hate which in turn has been created by the memory of Jewish wickedness. I mean by direct or indirect experience. Religion on its own doesn’t help as it is revealed in churches the world over. Jewish crimes and criminals are real. Shtetls were teeming with them. With the underbelly of the beast and sin. Show thy horns oh 
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Are the Jewish causing more problems for themselves by covering it up? anti-Semites everywhere would agree in their blindsided opinion that the terms The Chosen People was being used by the Jews to conceal themselves. Trying to make Poland swallow the red pill for example. Its the idea Israel can bulldoze Poland like it does Palestine. Regardless of guilt by Israel of horrendous and teeming Stalinist crimes. Communist crimes against the opposition too. Ok it is rather the guilt of the European Jews especially in Eastern Europe. I realize that Jews at that time in history joined the Red Army for instance to fight the Nazis. Half a million joined.
The Polish will remind you that there were a lot of Jews who simply joined the Nazis. And while the Jews caused untold harm to the Polish during the war, especially to the anti-communist opposition, they harmed other Jews first.
There are supposed to be biblical or Talmudic justifications for this that make us culturally as different as can possibly be. The anti-Semites will boast about Western values which are Christian ones such as defending and protecting the weak not culling them especially not selfishly.
Which is justified I guess in Jewish law and tradition.
But regardless of the war and the Holocaust which are an all out humanitarian crisis, anti-Semites also keep a grudge against jewish peacetime crimes.
Therefore justifying their own hate crimes.
Most Jews, as Dr Kurek on YouTube would explain, that means the Hassidic Jews of Poland, were artisans and free and independent peace loving inhabitants. Of course, there are their bizarre claims of more independence and politics designed to carve out an actual free Jewish state in eastern poland.when the Polish themselves were fighting for survival and their country. It draws ire against the Jewish even today.
Jews believe that provided they didn’t sin and were righteous God will hand them the goyim over for service and enslavement in the future. Which is a masquerade. So no wonder for Purim.
It’s really about an internationally defunct dream that the Jews had to become lords and capitalists and thus be rewarded. The Rothschild family for instance. Or the industrialist Poznański on Łódź, Poland.
That idea of evil capitalism is dead.
Socialism and democracy have won against it.
However, since Jews still hold on to the dream it’s the proof that the vast majority of Jews couldn’t be Marxist.
Therefore defusing the debate that they all were Stalinists and communists.
And illustrating that they had a dream. A dream of power and riches that self-help and personal growth gurus today still promote.
There’s just an cultural difference between the Jews and Christians. Since G-d is the G-d of Israel, we’re supposed to bless them so that we may be blessed in return.
And the Jewish have the G-d given right to live and prosper in the countries particularly the Christian countries were their diaspora has gotten established.
ARE WE ABLE TO HOPE THAT THE CONFLICT OPPOSING THE JEWS AND GOYIM WILL SOON GET DEFUSED??
AM I RIGHT BY INSISTING THAT MOST JEWS WHO DIED DURING THE HOLOCAUST WERE ABSOLUTELY INNOCENT??
I want to remind Dr Kurek that both the Nazis and the Soviets aimed at the bourgeoisie and aristocracy first. They exterminated millions of people. Entire families. Which is sadly never mentioned anywhere. She explains that the Hassidic victims were a majority that stood for the poor. 3 million Polish Jews were killed in the death camps.
Poland and Israel should love and respect each other and be ONE.
RIGHT?
Before I get 10,000 reports on this - they’re already coming in - I’m going to rule this counts as witnessing and therefore is appropriate for Great Debates.
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TYPOS AND LAPSES.
- The Poles are guilty of terrible crimes against the Jewish people.
- Large numbers were killed by the Poles during pogroms.
- I’d like to mention that many Poles are called Righteous Among Nations by Yad Vashem for saving Jews during the Holocaust.
- The vengeful and hateful opposite of Anti-Semitism in Poland is called Anti-Polonism.
- I am part Jewish on my father’s side of the family.
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I don’t see where you’re insisting this. Looks like you’re “just asking questions” about whether you should insist this.
Well, I suppose it’s better than live streaming.
Welcome to the SDMB, mrka. I am going to stick my neck out and agree with you that the Jews who were murdered in the Holocaust were innocent. Although not necessarily for the reasons listed.
I don’t think that’s it so much. Anti-Semitism is fueled by hatred for the outsider, which make the core group exclude the outsider, which fuels the hatred for the outsider. The more wrong you do to someone, the more you hate them.
Regards,
Shodan
As politely as one possibly can, I’ll just agree that the Holocaust was an undeserved and evil massacre of innocent people, and suggest that despite the OP having come to that correct conclusion (by whatever means), I would still suggest that he see a psychiatrist.
I don’t think this thread merits debate nor really any discussion of the proposed topic beyond that.
Mental health before deciding who is or isn’t innocent and deserving or not deserving of death.
As the old saying goes: goys will be goys.
It’s hard to know where to begin with a post this incoherent. 100% of the victims of the Holocaust were 100% innocent. Not that innocence or guilt played any role in the slaughter of millions. The Nazis didn’t hold trials with evidence presented and a verdict duly and impartiality reached. They weren’t in the least bit interested in determining anything about a person’s actions. Identity in a particular group was all that mattered. And anti-Semitism has exactly nothing to do with “Jewish wickedness.” HTH.
Never in a million (or 6 million) years would I have guessed the join date.
The flags at the end of the post are a nice touch.
Bet the OP doesn’t know that the Jews invented paragraphs. 
Still don’t understand what the OP expects me to do with my goyim slaves.
You don’t want slaves, that’s immoral and sick.
Sell them.
But he got them wholesale!
At least wait until there market improves!
My read of the OP is that the Jews didn’t deserve the Holocaust (except they kinda did).
Most people agree that no one killed in the Holocaust deserved it. I had not heard anything about a separate Jewish state in Poland. I’ll have to look into that. I dispute that Jews are claiming that they have no flaws or sins, or are covering up the same. I had not heard that the goyim are meant to be the slaves of the Jews; another topic for me to research.
For those who are expressing various personal points of view about the OP, please take a look at his profile.
Haven’t you ever heard of “Buy low, sell high?”
It makes sense to me when someone says that just because the Holocaust occurred does not make every Jewish person a saint. But that at the same time the Holocaust was not their fault or their doing, and that the vast majority were innocent.
It’s inconceivable that not a single Jewish criminal was ever killed by German soldiers during that war. (I mean actual criminals as defined by any reasonable person). And at the same time inconceivable that all could have been criminals - the number of criminals would have been very small. And even if a particular Jewish person was a murderer, he still didn’t deserve to be rounded up and slaughtered.
Isn’t it true that the Jewish community did carve out certain market niches for each other, where non-jews could not apply? One modern surviving example is the Antwerp diamond exchange, where a large fraction of the diamond merchants are jewish and presumably you would be treated poorly if you were not also jewish.
I mean, this is no different than how white males in the USA, in the same era, carved out niches that were most available jobs, so I’m in no way saying this bad act justified the Holocaust.
I’m simply saying that the popular ideas of the time, that Jews controlled all the newspapers and banks* and you couldn’t compete if weren’t, weren’t totally untrue, or were they?
*and bankers, like all bankers, even today, will cheat their customers if they think they can get away with it.
Anyways, all I am saying is that subgroups of the Jewish community in German, 1938, might have done things that were seen as unpopular by the wider community. It wasn’t all of them and it didn’t justify mass murder, but the accusations weren’t all untrue, were they?
Though the hyperinflation they suffered wouldn’t have been due to the bankers, Jewish or not, it was due to the government struggling to pay it’s debts, right.
Sort of today, pretty much any male Hollywood figure who is a gatekeeper to fame and fortune is expected to be demanding payment in sex from young aspiring starletts. Even if they aren’t all doing it, it happens so often it is considered to be a group behavior. Not that this would justify mass murder, or firing them all without evidence…
Seconded. For those wondering what this is about read mrka’s public profile.