Are you sure they realize you’re talking about “jelly” in the jam/preserves/etc way and not in the “Jell-O” way which is what “jelly” means in a lot of the world?
Aside to you grape-flavor loving people: you’re sick in the head and should seek help immediately.
Your experience – or your taste buds – are clearly different from mine.
Yea, exactly what I mean. You get to see the naked lady, but you don’t get no pussy. If you’re lucky you might feel her skin brush against you. That’s illegal now,where I come from, b.t.w.
You see, the law was pretty standard and within decency. A real lap dance… no finish. But there was contact and it was legal. The right wing christians made a law against it and are trying to seperate people from one another as they are seperate from humanity.
My neighbor Roscoe had a Garden Vineyard. Long established vines. He made somewhere between a preserve and a jelly with the tiny sour concords. It was grapes and skin with sugar and pectin, seeded by crushing and straining. It sometimes included the peel. It was very good on buttered wonderbread.
But here’s the deal. His concord jelly was neither purple nor black, it ranged from a green pink to red.
No, I’m speaking of the raspberry ones which are red like the cherry ones.
The new blue ones are the blue raspberry ones.
The new three flavors are all terrible.
Grapes always flower on the last year’s growth. Just remember that when pruning. I wasn’t how much he pruned, it was what he pruned.
I grew up with a wild (possibly feral from an earlier cultivation) concord vine in my backyard. When the grapes are ripe and bursting, popping one in the mouth whole and spitting out the seeds tasted like grape jelly. Popping the grape out of the skin and just eating the flesh tasted like grape soda. My guess is that’s what they were going for with the artificial grape flavor.
I’ve had black current jelly (gummy) candies and thought they were like a cross between grape and cherry, only more bitter. Which is kind of odd as I thought most European candies were supposed to be sweeter and most artificial grape flavor is insanley sweet (mmm… concord jam and butter on a toasted english muffin).
Black current always tasted like something between cough drops and a bowel lubricant to me. That’s not what I look for in a candy, but if reading “Gravity’s Rainbow” taught me anything, it’s something the Brits DO look for. :eek:
In this case, “what” he pruned was the sad victim of “how much”, because he did it blindly. If he cut back some of the older growth and left renewal buds, he would have still had some year old limbs for flowering and the plants would have recovered more quickly. The problem was that he hacked off everything on the outside of the plants with no regard for anything, so that about two thirds of them ended up in the trash and pretty much the only things left were little grape “shrubs” of old growth around the main trunks. It was about as far from what you’re supposed to do as you can get without burning them to the ground and salting their roots.
I got lucky then. I’ve got about 16’ of split rail fence covered in long neglected grapvines. I pruned them in early spring, mostly attempting to take off dead growth. It made my neighbors nervous.
I picked 50lbs of grapes off them last month.
I’ve got 24 jars of jelly and another gallon of juice in the freezer.
The jelly is fabulous.
When I was a kid, green was almost invariably “lime”. As an apple-flavor hater, I really dislike this change.
Green isn’t invariably Sour Apple. Green LifeSavers (in the five flavor pack) and grenn Jello are lime. So are green Tavener’s Fruit Drops, and lots of other candies. So, even if Jolly Rancher and others have been seduced by the pucker of Sour Apple, it’s not universal in America.
When I was growing up:
Purple was always grape, and was tied with Red as my own first choice among the Usual Flavors. (I had never even heard of black currants as a kid. Why do you think there’s no Blackcurrant Ape?)
Green was usually lime.
Peanut butter and grape jelly was the Standard American Kid Sandwich.
I don’t understand the grape replacement flavor either. But whatever that flavor is, blindfolded, we would still recognize it as pseudo “grape.” At least it’s consistent.
I agree with the green = lime consensus. Although, I once bought a box of Starburst fruit flavored candy canes, the first year they were produced. On the box it stated that it contained the flavors strawberry, orange, lemon and “green.” The following Christmas, they replaced the green flavor with lime.
There’s no consistent ‘green’ flavour… It can be lime, or apple, sometimes watermelon…occasionally, even mint in surprising contexts…getting a mint jellybean when expecting lime can be a nasty surprise.
I love grapes but I loathe “Grape” flavour.
The main reason that blackcurrants aren’t popular in the U.S. is due to the fact that they couldn’t be grow here in up until about 3-4 years ago. There is a plant disease endemic to them that is almost alwsy fatal to the American White Elm. DUe to this fact the USDA (Dpet. of Agriculture) had a ban on their cultivation here in the US. The ban was recently lifted and now a number of quality win producers have been growing them with the intent to make a traditional European Cassis (blackcurrant liquor).
You’re overlooking the all-important “strawberry.” It’s color/flavor confusion.