But probably they robbed other people after you right?
Maybe.
Right, you’re apparently as proud of your anti-fitness as you are of your cowardice.
A) because it’s yours and they are robbing you at gun point. B) because they are going to do it to someone else, and being the kind of people they are they might kill them others, if female they might rape them. Buy hey, you’re a peace loving pacifist resulting in or from less than average testosterone, so why let that bother you.
Pretty much. It’s real simple. I have always been taught that a responsible gun owner secures their weapon, always assume its loaded, never fire it somewhere you can’t see/don’t know what’s on the other side, and other standards.
So, man up. As long as it’s registered to you, you’re responsible. End of story. Until you sell it/give it/whatever to someone that is registered for it, then you’re responsible. You give it to your nephew, it wasn’t registered, your nephew didn’t secure it, a kid accidently got shot with it. It’s on your head.
You’re responsible and don’t need Uncle Sugar sticking his nose in your house. No fucking problem, just make sure you secure it in a safe manner. And if shit happens, it’s your responsibility.
Let’s be clear. Someone breaks into your house, steals things including your piece, and you *report *it. Then I would say your legal and civil liability is over. You sell your piece to someone that is legally able to buy it, then your liability ends with the transfer of registration even if that person goes on to shoot up an elementary school.
BUT you don’t get a free pass that the second amendment means you can “collect” guns and “trade” guns and “give” them to relatives or “freely sell them privately” or any of that other bullshit. You’re a responsible gun owner, and that means you have responsibilities.
Fitness? Why didn’t you take out the bad guys with a karate chop?
Because I don’t know Karate. Martial arts are kind of bullshit:
Just like gun control:
I’m also willing to bet, infact I’ll even give 10-1 odds, that there are at least twice as many accidental deaths and “mistaken target” deaths as there are lives saved by defensive gun uses. (excluding law enforcement)
Cite?
Meaning no disrespect to Hentor or Elucid , but why are you arguing with an idiot?
You have heard the parable about giving a pig a bath?
Murder, no. Negligence, hell yeah. The proposal is to make it criminal negligence. If you own a gun, it is your responsibility to secure it. Why is that so much to ask? If you leave guns laying around where criminals can steal them and children can play with them, how is it that not your liability.
What happens with the gun after it has left your possession is no longer your fault, sure, but letting them have it in the first place is.
What do you propose the penalty should be for negligently allowing your gun to be used in an inappropriate manner? Keep in mind, that, being not tied to acts after it left your possession, so you can’t be held liable for a mass shooting, also means that the penalty would not be reduced just because no one got hurt. Could the penalty at least be that if you cannot secure your guns, then you cannot be trusted to have them anymore?
If I cannot buy a gun in my state without background checks and registration that I do not wish to or cannot pass, I can easily google and find another state that has laws that will allow me to purchase the weapons I want. My understanding is that most gun laws only limit what you can purchase in your state, not what you can legally own. Even bringing in guns that are not legal in your state, transporting across state lines is fairly simple, it’s not like country borders where they actually stop you to ask questions.
If this is extended to national level, I would either have to leave the country and sneak it in through customs, or buy it on the black market. Not that either of those is impossible, but definitely a greater barrier than a state border.
Drivers ed, you mean 10 hours in class and 8 behind the wheel? Well, that’s better than what we have now for guns. Assuming that there is a test after the classes for certification like there is for a car license.
Being professionally trained by the military not only in shooting, but also in strategy, tactics and teamwork would be far better. If we are looking to increase responsible gun ownership, mandatory military service would be a great way to go.
Your kid would also be less likely to tour, as mandatory service tends to keep the public tolerance for unnecessary wars fairly low.
They certainly are perceived by gun advocates as having the power to confiscate all the guns, if even the slightest compromise is made on their part towards regulating firearms.
Question, the idiots kicked out of your gun range because they couldn’t follow the simple gun rules, they still got to keep their guns, right? Do you think they should have?
ETA: I just saw China Guy’s post, and I am happy to see that he agrees that I did not put words into his mouth.
No, no, that’s about trying to teach a pig to sing. (It wastes your time and annoys the pig.)
Yeah them geniuses are so smart they lost the battle.
Seems all these gun control pushes do now is sell another million AR15s.
Also, I keep forgetting who he is. Its only when he displays his big hairy balls in public that I remember “Oh, yeah, this guy, poster child for testosterone poisoning…”
Well, yeah. That’s pretty much the very question that struck me last night.
Says the guy who needs to wear a strap-on to feel like a man. 
You know the difference between you and George Zimmerman? He had the balls to go fucking *do *it. You can only *dream *of being the man George Zimmerman is.
You have a strap on? There is emerging research that indicates hormone levels affect political preferences. I bet you, elucidator and Hentor all tend to be more in favor of wealth distribution too.
I thought Zimmerman was guilty of manslaughter myself.
Oh, Hentie? Heee-eeey! Listen, sugarpants, can I borrow some of that blue eye-shadow for Freddie Mercury Day? I’d ask Elvish, but he can be such a little bitch, sometimes! OK, sweetie, bye!
It’s science.
No, honeybumps, that’s pop science. We have the barest beginnings of understanding what hormones do, and how they do it. Mother Jones does some first rate investigative reporting, but they don’t know any more about endocrinology than you or I.
No it’s real science. I understand that you don’t like it. Sorry that science called you a pussy, but you knew that already.
Well, you are what you eat.