Gun toting soccer mom dead.

That’s why the Swiss require everyone to own a rifle. Too many people were killing each other with wheels of cheese and they didn’t have anything left to export.

I might have missed it, but I don’t think chique is giggling about her orphaned kids. I think he’s giggling at the irony of the situation.

Your second sentence is a nonsequitur. Other people are dangerous, which makes her scary? A hell of a lot of people are shitty drivers and shouldn’t be allowed near anything with more power than a child’s toy scooter, that doesn’t mean that it should be objectively scary that some people drive large trucks on neighborhood streets.

Nonono! The poor, homeless, shoeless, bedraggled, scabby-kineed, starving orphans are the best part!

I’d type more but you’ll have to pardon me - I’m going to go knock off some little old ladies now. Starting with gramma.

I am offended by the misuse of the term “irony.”
Woman: “People who want to commit a crime would not obey gun laws anyway. Why disarm only law abiding people? I am fully aware that guns are extremely dangerous in the hands of criminals, and that I am vulnerable to this, but disarming myself makes me no safer. I might be killed by a criminal with a gun, but he would not have obeyed gun laws anyway.”

Idiots: “Haha! You just got murdered, bitch! Too bad your kids didn’t get killed too! Giggle.”

I’m struggling to see the irony, even if it is your mother’s strap-on, your mother laughed maniacally, or hell, even if the sheep is your mother. Not that it couldn’t be all three.

“Pinky, are you thinking what I’m thinking?”

“I think so, Brain, but what is a sheep doing with a strap-on?”

The ironic part is that you’re offended by shit you made up!

Yup, and on average, a gun is a lot more efficient at murder than a car, a knife, or a haggis, and a gun is not needed for anything other than killing, whereas a car, a knife and a haggis are. Pretty hard to get to work and for goods to be transported without a car. Pretty hard to have dinner on turkey day (it is Thanksgiving weekend here this weekend) without a knife. Pretty hard to have sex without a haggis. On a societal cost benefit basis, personal handguns are way off on the cost side, whereas vehicles, kitchen knives and haggis are far over on the benefit side.

Let’s not exaggerate here. You aren’t going to hell (it doesn’t exist) and you aren’t “special” for giggling at a husband murdering his wife.

You’re just a garden variety, ugly human being. No big deal.

The only comeuppance you might get would be people giggling at you and your family if you get stabbed or beaten to death. But you wouldn’t be around to watch people wiping away tears of mirth at your murder, so you have nothing to worry about.

My point was that it doesn’t appear to have been a household of mentally stable, responsible gun owners. The husband obviously had problems. The woman didn’t show very good judgment, legal or not, by her actions at the soccer game.

My point is that the statistic (well, trend) you stated is meaningless. Of course there are more gun-related deaths when more people have guns. Just like more people trip over sleeping cats if more people have sleeping cats to trip over.

Showing that more guns=more gun-related deaths does NOT show that more guns=more deaths overall.

The county I live in has 3 dwellings per square mile. We have wolves, coyotes, bobcats, mountain lions, black bears, grizzlies, red foxes, and all kinds of other critters that like to eat other critters. When I had my ranch, I kept guns nearby. I may not have goats & cattle anymore–I sold the cattle and donated the goats to the SDMB Initiation Team ™–but I kept the guns.

To answer the questions that will probably pop up: Yes, I’m properly trained. Yes, I have a concealed carry permit. No, I don’t pack heat to my kids’ games. Even if I wanted to, a concealed carry permit doesn’t let you carry a weapon on school grounds in Montana.

Interestingly, though, when I gave a talk about Scottish history at the local high school, I did wear a claymore, a dirk, and a sgian dubh with my kilt. I got permission, but if felt kind of funny packing a 5-foot sword on a campus where kids get suspended for pocket knives.

Hmmm. Too bad you weren’t around when I was single. Although if I remember correctly, you’re the wrong gender anyway. Oh, well.

Have a look at that last cite I posted – the homicide rate in the USA is extremely high when compared to Canada. Gun violence - Wikipedia

As you can see from the stats, the great difference is not in the non-gun homicide rate, but instead is in the gun homicide rate, so yes, more guns increase the homicide rate, rather than just change the method of killing without increasing the homicide rate.

I know this is the Pit and not GD, but Wikipedia really isn’t the best source to be citing. How do I know you weren’t the original source of that data?

And in any case, there are hundreds or thousands of different variables. Having two things that are higher in one country than another does not imply that one of those things causes the other. Not even in that one case, much less across the board. You pick a study that supports one position in the gun debate, and I can probably find one that says the opposite.

People’s reactions to guns are visceral, with layers of rationalizing piled on top. When folks discovered that the Columbine shooters originally intended to blow up the school with bombs made from propane tanks, we didn’t see a big crusade to outlaw propane tanks, but people went nuts about banning guns.

I don’t like the idea of taking away people’s rights and freedoms based on other people’s irrational fears.

On the internet, nobody knows that you are a dog. Prove to me that you are not a dog.

If you had bothered to read my cite the first time I posted it, I would not have to have posted it a second time. If you had bothered to read my post the second time I posted it, you would have noted that the stats were from, and directly linked to, the Seventh United Nations Survey of Crime Trends and Operations of Criminal Justice Systems, covering the period 1998 - 2000. http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/seventh_survey/7sc.pdf

BTW, as posted on another message board, I am a cat.

Funny you should say that, because just yesterday I walked into a Chuck E. Cheese with a propane tank—which I purchased legally, as is my legal right as an adult citizen of the United States of America— duct-taped to my chest, while holding a box of 100% legal strike-anywhere matches, and you would not believe the overreaction I got from all the Constitutional illiterates.

“I’m doing this for all of you,” I shouted, but was drowned out by the mayhem of screaming children and crescendo of approaching sirens.

Considering how well irony has gone over up to this point, do you really think I’m about to introduce even more to this thread? :stuck_out_tongue:

Shut up about that and tell us about the sheep.

NO, the moral of the story is that having a gun does not make you any safer. But having a gun in the house greatly increases the chances that you will be shot by someone else in the house, either intentionally or accidentally. She just happened to become one more example that proves this rule.

Well. . .then, I’ll have to side with some of the others here. What the heck is wrong with you??!!!

You moral degenerate. You left that part out of your OP. That’s just unforgivable. :stuck_out_tongue:

And double bad on you for not knowing that this would turn into a gun rights thread. Because every thread that has a gun in it must necessarily be one of those. :wink:

Oddly enough, it squealed like a pig.

hangs head in shame

I feel really, really bad about that. Apologies. :frowning: