A further moral of the story is once a decision to separate is made, then get out or get an order directing the spouse to get out, and make an emergency plan appropriate to the circumstances.
The more guns per capita, the more gun deaths per capita. Right. Which is why Switzerland, which has the highest amount of privately-owned guns per capita in the world, is such a dangerous place.
I’m pretty sure that a U.S. military base has more guns per capita than any city - so by your logic there should be more gun deaths per capita on a U.S. military base than in Detroit or Los Angeles.
Wake up - guns are inanimate objects. Your thinking has no logical basis at all.
In Happy Suburb Land, there is a 52% chance one of the Labradors is named after a State, and a 22% chance one is named “Buddy”. There is a 31% chance each Labrador has a small cross next to its rabies tag, proclaiming “Jesus Saves,” you know, just in case the animal ever forgot…
Edited to add: come to think of it, you could lay the same odds on the kids, too. Except for the rabies tag…
My bad for using the word “obsessed,” as I had no direct experience with the woman. I probably didn’t make it clear – I support our right to own guns, though not with much zeal.
It’s odd that a thread that could ostensibly degenerate into gun-nuts vs anti-gun-nuts has veered off into irony vs not-irony.
For the record, I’m not anti-gun, but I am anti-“gun nut.” I think there is a huge difference. I think some people get a feeling of power from wearing a gun so that others can see it. I think that mindset is misguided at best, dangerous at worst. Guns may be hunks of plastic and metal but they have the ability to inflict harm very quickly, and the mental state of the person carrying them is critical. A person who’d wear a gun to a child’s soccer game’s mental state should be questioned.
Does she deserve to get killed? Of course not. It’s a tragedy for her children and surviving family. She didn’t get killed for wearing a gun to a soccer game. She got killed by her husband and no one knows the reasons. I’m only speculating, but odds are that her husband shared her feelings about guns, but apparently was not mentally capable of making a good decision about using his. That’s what makes it scary that she wore the gun to the game in the first place. It doesn’t mean she was dangerous, but it does show that not everyone is capable of proper gun usage. Far from it. I wish everyone who owned a gun was as thoughtful, well-trained and careful as most of the gun-owners I know, but it’s just not that way.
Sure, but this thread has no responsibility to be that for you. Do you remember the OP?
Your idea is a nice one, in a thread you start, in Great Debates.
This is the pit, and I laugh at the dead woman and all the people who think it is absolutely irrelevant that she was a confrontational 2nd-amendment darling.
A very sad story.
Just can’t be too careful:
It could well have been an anti-gun nut trying to break in.
Not even close.
Apples to oranges: Switzerland has a very different society, particularly with regard to stable, integrated community structures (have a look at “Cities with little crime: the case of Switzerland” by Marshall Barron Clinard” Cities with Little Crime: The Case of Switzerland - Marshall B. Clinard - Google Books ).
Apples to apples: In 2000, the rate of homicide involving a gun was 3.8 per 100,000 population in the United States, nearly eight times as high as Canada’s rate of 0.5 per 100,000, and in Canada the rate of homicides involving a firearm dropped in half from the early 1980s to in 2002, which parallels the tightening of gun control in Canada in 1977 and 1995. (Statistics Canada, with data from US National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. http://www.statcan.gc.ca/ads-annonces/82-003-x/pdf/4194126-eng.pdf ).
So if you want a more accurate statement than “the more guns per capita, the more gun deaths per capita,” I’m quite willing to amend it to "for the USA and societies substantially similar to the USA, by national aggregate, the more guns per capita, the more gun deaths per capita.”
To follow through with the wiki stats provided by DanBlather, and also apply further wiki stats on homicide by gun rates, Canada has fewer guns per capita than Switzerland and a corresponding lower homicide by gun rate than Switzerland. The USA has tremendously more guns per capita than either of these countries, and a tremendously higher homicide by gun per capita rate than either of the countries.
Initially I thought the OP was a wretched little turd for giggling over the idea of the “gun toting soccer mom” being shot dead.
Then I couldn’t resist laughing about this headline in the morning paper.:
“2 die, 21 sickened in sweat lodge”
It seems that something went wrong near Sedona, AZ when 64 people who’d paid up to $9,000 crammed into a “sweat dome” to achieve spiritual cleansing and get rid of their “toxins”. The organizer of the event, James Ray, called it his “Spiritual Warrior” retreat and had posted the following on his Twitter account:
*"JamesARay: is still in Spiritual Warrior… for anything new to live something first must die. What needs to die in you so that new life can emerge?
JamesARay: Day 5 of SPW. The Spiritual Warrior has conquered death and therefore has no enemies, and no fear, in this life or the next."*
Oddly, those postings have been deleted.
I am a bad person for finding humor in this, even briefly. I must be cleansed. Maybe some more hot coffee?*
*taken the old-fashioned way, not as a coffee enema.
2 out of 64 died? Well at least he can say that he kept his side of the “absolutely change your life” contract for two of them.
This story would be hilarious if it weren’t for the fact that there’s now orphaned children involved. What a stupid bitch, why would you need to go to a soccer game with an exposed pistol. Of course, I know Lebanon PA very well, maybe she was afraid of all the tweaker meth heads that live there.
You can never be too careful.
How the heck do you do a spirtual sweat with 64 people? At that industrial scale, it sounds more like fleecing than sweating to me. What a pity that people died in this nonsense.
:rolleyes: I guess I’m in the clear to laugh when you threaten some other redneck in a Wal-Mart parking lot and get beat to death with some truck nutz.
Quite true. A gun in your car is sitting there waiting for someone to break in and steal it. A gun on your hip is protected.
NOTE: Do not interpret this to mean I support open carry at kids’ soccer games. What she did was inappropriate, but she didn’t deserve to die for it, and I still think chique is an ass for “giggling” about her orphaned kids.
Yep. And the more cars per capita, the more car deaths per capita. Ditto crowbars, screwdrivers, and harpoons. If you’re going to kill someone, you’re a lot more likely to do it with something that is readily at hand, right?
Golly, your reasoning is irrefutable. It doesn’t matter if guns are around or not. If I’m going to kill somebody, and I have no gun, I’ll just do it with my screwdriver!
Now I *finally *understand why Scotland’s haggis-homicide rate is so much higher than ours.
For my next OP, I shall delineate how I laughed maniacally while fucking a sheep with a strap-on after I killed my mother.