Funny thing about that anti-gun movement. Every so often a Carl Rowan, Rosie O’Donnell or “Flirty” Stevens will crop up. These folks would deny to the rest of us a right they have no problem reserving for themselves.
I believe only people who commit gun crimes should be penalized. Since filing the numbers off of a gun qualifies as such, Ms. Stevens would fit the bill here. May she find the justice she campaigned for.
Funny thing about that family values movement. Every so often a Newt Gingrich, Henry Hyde or Bill “Felafel” O’Reilly will crop up. These folks would deny to the rest of us a right they have no problem reserving for themselves.
Well, you yourself did use three examples to paint a picture of the whole anti-gun movement. The way I read it, Hentor was sarcastically pointing out your flawed reasoning by turning it back on you.
I don’t agree with the anti-gun movement, but I can respect an opinion honestly held.
These folks didn’t have honestly held opinions. They had views on the subject best describesd as hypocritical.
I’m not pitting the Million Mom March (though I certainly could). I’m pitting Flirty Stevens. And the anti-gun types should do so as well, IMHO. She certainly turned out to be a wonderful leader for your cause.
Also, it’s not Hentor I was referring to. It was aurelian.
I don’t think that’s rare at all. Now, anti-gun dudes are divided into two camps: those who fear and hate guns, and those who feel that “others’ can’t be trusted with them. I’d say about half the anti-gun movement are in that “elitist” group. They can be trusted with a gun- we can’t. :rolleyes: By-and-large, the Police who are “anti-gun” are in the second group. They fell that 'civilians” can’t be trusted with guns. :dubious: Of course- police are “civilians” too, but that doesn’t stop them from calling everyone who isn’t police a 'civilian".
This also seems to apply to most other things that people want banned- drugs for instance. A large number hate and fear drugs- other elitists (Rush for example)- feel that "we’ can’t be trusted, but “they” can handle them. :rolleyes:
The division tends to go along the lines of education, but not always.
Sounds like a great new slogan to me: “When guns are outlawed, only grieveing mothers who confusedly stow their dead childrens’ belongings will have guns … Until a few gun-loving cops with contempt for her deeply felt values jam her up on a BS search warrant and maybe even plant drugs in the house to boot.”
I was going to warn Mr. Moto not to fall in love. But I thought that would be going too far. Plus, as he is a Republican, I know he has no heart, and cannot therefore fall in love (in the traditional sense*).
(* Oh sure, one can say they are in love with guns, tax breaks for the wealthy and bans on stem cell research, but is that really love?)
Funny you should mention this. I saw The Tubes back in 1985 in one of the strangest and most entertaining concerts I’ve ever seen. Todd Rundgren was the opening act.
Great stuff. I’d recommend them highly if they play a show near you.
Didn’t the haggling of Rosie O’Donnell regarding her hypocrictical stance over private ownership of firearms while employing armed bodyguards to protect her and her kids lead to her eventually being cornered by Bill O’Reilly?
He haggled her over having armed bodyguards for herself and her kids, and she admitted to it, then she said:
It was the one time I wished he was more of an asshole and pressed on with ‘Even if that’d mean the bodyguards you employ could no longer have them?’
If you are truly pitting Ms. Flirty–why do you paint the entire movement as hypocritical? The “these folks don’t have honestly held opinions” bit.
And what the hell does that mean, anyway? Ever heard a dishonest opinion? It’s a freaking opinion.
Frankly, if my son had died and I found a gun in his room–I would freak out and not know what to do with it. I am not a gun person–I’m sure several scenarios would go thru my mind. Like, what if this is an illegal firearm? Am I held accountable for this, when it isn’t even mine? where would I turn this in? I am also sure that finding the gun brought back all manner of horiible memories for her. Easiest way to deal with all this? Stick it in a drawer and forget about it. I could also see someone throwing it into a lake or even a dumpster.
I am not saying that this is the course of action she should have taken–I am saying that it is understandable.
Sounds to me that you just want to rant about anti-gun people. FYI, one (or even two or a hundred) people found to have behaved in a manner contrary to their espoused beliefs does not a “hypocritical” movement make. It is unfortunate for the woman involved, but does not negate the feelings or position of the group she was a part of.
Also, this statement is strange from you, Diogenes, considering that you’re always first off of the blocks whenever one of your political opponents has a moral failing.
