And yet here you are, acting like we have to negotiate. We don’t. You want something from us, either take it like you always have before or tell us what we get in return.
What would you like?
Machine guns manufactured after 1986 have been absolutely banned, with some trivial exceptions for a handful of favored groups, like the film industry. Machine guns are probably not important to you, but plenty of gun owners would like to have them, and are prevented by government regulation.
Background checks are not extreme, but they are part of a continual process wherein numerous small and reasonable regulatory burdens add to each other to create an unreasonable and extreme result.
How about this.
People believe that it they make laws about something they are “dealing with the problem”. So they make evil looking guns illegal. But next year, they will want to deal with the problem again, and decide that certain size magazines are evil, and they should make a law.
I didn’t know you meant machine guns when you said that these federal laws had banned “short barrel shotguns, automatic firearms, and suppressors”, but that was probably due to my ignorance about guns. I can see now how automatic firearms could have been a reference to machine guns.
I’m curious, though. Do you feel the same frustration with your inability to buy a grenade launcher? Surface to air missile? What about a nuclear warhead? Do you draw any lines on the use of weapons by civilians? If so, where?
Let’s see. I am not a celebrity or independently wealthy so I in CA am prohibited from:
[ul]
[li]Carrying a concealed firearm out of my house on my person[/li][li]Purchasing a machine gun[/li][li]Purchasing a short barreled rifle[/li][li]Purchasing a magazine with a capacity to hold more than 10 rounds[/li][li]In certain locations, purchasing ammunition through the internet[/li][li]Purchasing a suppresor[/li][li]Having a detachable magazine of any size from a centerfire rifle if it has 2 or more cosmetic features that are considered bad[/li][li]Purchasing more than 1 handgun from a firearms dealer in a 30 day period[/li][li]If I own a gun store, advertise that I sell handguns with an image of a handgun[/li][li]Purchase a two toned version of a pistol that has been approved for purchase in another color[/li][li]Purchase a newly manufactured pistol that the state hasn’t deemed is “not unsafe”[/li][li]Purchase a newly manufactured pistol that does not have some non-existent technology[/li][li]purchase a .50 caliber rifle[/li][/ul]
Apparently, you don’t know what a concession is. Keeping gun ownership (gee thanks!) is not a concession - it is the status quo.
One other thing I forgot to mention. This notion of “high capacity” magazines. That’s a scare label just like “Assualt Weapons” were in 1994. It’s meaningless. Over time, many people came to realize that the term “assualt weapon” was used to mislead people into supporting a ban on cosmetic features. The term “high capacity” is of the same vein.
They are simply, magazines. If anything, standard capacity magazines. The standard capacity magazine for an AR-15 rifle can contain 30 rounds. I know you know this already, but the term just bugs.
‘Reasonable restrictions’ ended up as confiscation here.
To this, with which I heartily agree, I would like to add:
You guys did much of the work in winning two world wars, and you can’t shoot a guy who breaks into your house with the intent of doing you physical harm.
As of today you are right. The courts are on your side.
But things change. Maybe this will too (although I probably won’t live to see it).
“Machine guns” ARE “automatic firearms”
Which I conceded (even being charitable enough to chalk it up to my own ignorance).
Now, since you are inclined to read my post, please answer my question:
Do you feel the same frustration with your inability to buy a grenade launcher? Surface to air missile? What about a nuclear warhead? Do you draw any lines on the use of weapons by civilians? If so, where?
Sorry, wrote a long post and hit the “Refresh” button on accident and deleted it.
I think the SBR/SBS and suppressor restrictions contained in the NFA should go away. They’re stupid and illogical.
I think full-autos should be legal to own in the same way that semi-autos are, but I’d be willing (here’s a line I am willing to accept) to do all the NFA paperwork and deal with the associated delays and pay the additional fee if it meant I could have full-auto version of modern sporting rifles. The 1986 machine gun ban should go away and the NFA registry should be re-opened.
The NFA has provisions for handling “destructive devices”, and I think those are working just fine (there’s another line I can live with).
As anyone heard of lawmakers planning to ban semi auto rifles? Those little Marlins kids plink with.
Yeah, pretty much every AWB ever proposed has been to ban semi-auto rifles (and in some cases handguns and shotguns)
- AWB = “assault weapon” ban
Uh, how about slowing down the constant gun violence? you do realize this country has a serious gun problem right?
Which makes you as bad as the idiots who support the TSA. When you are willing to sacrifice people’s freedoms not to do something worthwhile but just to pretend you’re doing something worthwhile, that’s nothing more than security theater.