ha ha ha, Christianist dimwits, yes, "open forum" doesn't mean "Christianity only"

[John_Mace]

@monstro

The code of conduct is so bizarre it doesn’t seem real. Seems like a straight-up prison. Come on! No horseplay? Is this a college or a swimming pool?

No running!

[Sweetums]

Okay the one I love:

Entering the space above ceiling tiles = 12 Reprimands + $50 Fine*

Has Liberty really had that big a problem with students crawling around above the ceiling that they had to make a rule about it?

Perhaps that's where the pagans went to meet with the opposite sex. :eek:

[hawksgirl]

Holy cow, with those rules, we’d get expelled for what we do at band practice!

Improper personal contact (anything beyond hand-holding) = 4 reprimands and $10 fine
Association with those consuming alcohol or Failure to properly identify oneself= 18 Reprimands + $250 Fine + 18 hours Disciplinary Community Service

And any college that outlaws abortions is no college I want to see. I remember high school and all those baby-bellies. Ew.

[pravnik]

@Sweetums

Okay the one I love:

Entering the space above ceiling tiles = 12 Reprimands + $50 Fine*

Has Liberty really had that big a problem with students crawling around above the ceiling that they had to make a rule about it?

At a college where you can’t drink alcohol or spend the night with a member of the opposite sex, what else are you going to do when you want to get crazy?

[drewbert]

@kaylasdad99

In the interests of accuracy and precision, it should be noted that the pastor in the story calls for the public school system to be abandoned by Christian families in favor of homeschooling and private Christian schools.

Just so nobody thinks the pastor advocated a policy of the state getting out of the public education business altogether. I realize that, practically speaking, there would be little to distinguish between the two outcomes, but still…

According to this article from New Scientist, there are those out there with the stated goal of ending public education altogether:

Exodus Mandate is urging each home-schooling family to bring one new family into the movement. If they succeed, several million families could take to home-schooling over the next several years, Moore says. “If we could get up to 30 per cent of public-school students into home-schooling and private schools, the system would start to unravel and at some point implode and collapse,” he says. “The government would be forced to get the states out of the education business altogether. It would go back to the churches and the families. It’s a strategy for the renewal of society.”

[elmwood]

Hmmm …

Dancing is worse than theft.
protesting George W. Bush is worse than dancing or theft.
Saying “fart” is worse than protesting, dancing or theft.
Knowing someone who drinks beer is worse than saying “fart”, protesting, dancing or theft.
Reading Harry Potter books is worse than knowing someone drinks beer, saying “fart”, protesting, dancing or theft.

Says so right here.

(selected excerpts from the Reprimands and Consequences page)

4 Reprimands + $10 Fine
Unauthorized borrowing (plus financial restitution)

6 Reprimands + $25 Fine
Attendance at a dance

12 Reprimands + $50 Fine
Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration

12-18 Reprimands + Corresponding Fine
Obscene, profane or abusive language or behavior

18 Reprimands + $250 Fine

• 18 hours Disciplinary Community Service
  Association with those consuming alcohol

30 Reprimands + $500 Fine

• 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal. NOTE: For each accumulation of six or more reprimands after 30, an additional $150 fine will be assessed.
  Involvement with witchcraft, séances or other occult activities

[Mangetout]

“Entering entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same”

So it’s OK to ‘enter the entryway’ of someone who is the same sex? Remarkable.

[GorillaMan]

@Mangetout

So it’s OK to ‘enter the entryway’ of someone who is the same sex? Remarkable.

Gosh, you think they might not have thought of that possibility? Shocking!

OK, while we’re going down the list, What The Fuck is “Immorality”? Clearly they think it needs no further explanation, but I don’t know what they expect the word to mean.

[Dumbguy]

Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration – 12 Reprimands + $50 Fine

How do you get a petition authorized? By filing a petition?

[Guinastasia]

My favorite?

12 Reprimands + $50 Fine for

Entering the space above ceiling tiles

You just KNOW there’s a story behind THAT one!

[Zoe]

Outside residence hall after curfew: 4 reprimands + 10 dollar fine

Academic dishonesty: 30 reprimands + 500 dollar fine

Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex: Priceless!
I am a Christian who understands well the soundness of separation of church and State. I am pleased that the pagans of the UU have made their point. (Sounds like an interesting program.) I just wish that all of the parents at Lakeview Elementary School in Mt. Juliet, Tennessee understood what traditional American values really are.

Some of the Codes of Conduct remind me of the first college that I tried to attend. By the end of the first quarter I was on disciplinary probation for two years! It just wasn’t meant to be. Some of my dearest friends are from those days though!

[Boyo_Jim]

@pool

I have a friend that goes there and yeah the school is ridiculous. You are not allowed to watch rated R movies or drink alcohol and a bunch of other ridiculou stuff. Check out their Code of Conduct:

http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=1378
Have an abortion or practice witchcraft and its a $500 fine and 30 reprimands.

Well, I foud the loophole.

No mention whatsoever of animals.

“Hey, I was just practicing animal husbandry with my sheep”.

[Jurph]

Sweet Jesus. I had a dress code and a demerit system in high school and it wasn’t nearly as bad as this. The thing that really stinks about it is the fines; I’ll bet a cheeseburger that those fines don’t get donated to charity. If you’re in college and need someone assigning you demerits so you’ll get your shit together, I’ve got bad news for you: you will never have your shit together.

Today, I would have racked up 4 demerits for staying up until 0200, 4 more for a music code violation (I am positive that Led Zeppelin and Ozzy Osbourne on my car stereo are not permitted, and I bet that NPR probably raises a few hackles), at least 144 demerits for owning R-rated (or worse) movies*, 12 more for deception, another 12 for possession of sexually-explicit material (my wife subscribed us to Playboy), 12-18 reprimands for flipping off a co-worker who called me a “wanker”, 18 for walking around the house completely naked, 30 for having beer in the fridge, and 30 for my wife’s swords.

[Boyo_Jim]

You’re fucked.

[Enginerd]

@Boyo Jim

You’re fucked.

Another 30 reprimands!

[Cluricaun]

Heh, during my own personal college days, had I even set foot upon that campus for more than 3 hours my parents would have had to sell their house, all of us declare personal bankrupcy, and probably submit to some sort of branding.

[zagloba]

How many “reprimands” does it take to get put on double secret probation?

[Leaper]

@GorillaMan

OK, while we’re going down the list, What The Fuck is “Immorality”? Clearly they think it needs no further explanation, but I don’t know what they expect the word to mean.

I think that’s the point. It’s a “catch-all” for everything they didn’t think of to put down on the list already.

[kaylasdad99]

@Jurph

Sweet Jesus. I had a dress code and a demerit system in high school and it wasn’t nearly as bad as this. The thing that really stinks about it is the fines; I’ll bet a cheeseburger that those fines don’t get donated to charity. If you’re in college and need someone assigning you demerits so you’ll get your shit together, I’ve got bad news for you: you will never have your shit together.

Duh. Having your shit together is for free, autonomous adults. This place isn’t really concerning itself with turning out any of those. Their ultimate product is, well, the best term I can come up with is subjects.

[Waenara]

@Sweetums

Okay the one I love:

Entering the space above ceiling tiles = 12 Reprimands + $50 Fine*

Has Liberty really had that big a problem with students crawling around above the ceiling that they had to make a rule about it?

I suspect some enterprising student tried to get around the rule just above that:

Entering the residence hallway of the opposite sex or allowing the same

Entering the space above ceiling tiles

Probably someone tried to find a loophole by saying that if you’re above the ceiling tiles, you’re not “in” the residence hallway.