Hacker speak

This quote came from another forum:

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=96244

Who knows this may be a heated debate that I’m unaware of, but for now I think it fits as a general question. Mods feel free to move it if I posted to the wrong forum.

Can anyone explain the point of this style of typing to me? For the life of me, I don’t understand what most of it means, nor why anyone would want to type this way. I want to understand, really I do. This is something that I seem to be out of the loop on though.

It’s just a kewl way to talk to your 1337 hax0r d00ds on IRC channels and message boards.

A cryptic language for the “in” crowd of geeks who used to be the “out” crowd, but now rule on the 'net.

By the way, 5 = s, 7 = T, 3 = E, 1 = L or I…

There’s probably two main reasons for this sort of typing, often referred to as 1337, or 133+, or something similar, which signifies ‘leet’ (from [e]lite). Part of it, if not most of it, is reflected in that word – the idea that those who speak it can use it as a code and exclude anyone who doesn’t know.

The only semi-legitimate reason is that it is used to block searches from finding them as easily – since some of them engage in illegal activities, they’ll use this code to prevent themselves from being found easily. Although this isn’t unique to illegal activity or 'leet speak – I’ve seen a web page with historical information on Germany which resorted to spelling Nazi as N*zi to prevent mass hate-mailings and neo-Nazis in search of a home.

Here is a link to some jargon that might explain it a little. I can’t claim to be a part of any of this lingo, but it’s interesting.

The people who “rule on the 'net” (i.e. make it work) do not speak this way. Except sometimes sarcastically, when making fun of those that do. This behaviour is associated with various neanderthals called lamers, crackers, script kiddies, or idiots, depending on the day of the month and the alignment of the planets.

Okay, how does 5u><><0r (Suxxor) get ‘sucks’? I can gather the x = k thing, but what about the ‘or’ part?

The etymology of this comes from the word “hacker,” which in idiot-speak became “h4x0r” (or anyone of a million variations) and thus led to anything ending with a “k” sound to adopt the “x0r/xor” ending.

XOR is also an abbreviation for a logical-exclusive-Or.

As a psuedo-geek, I think I can try to comment on this… The only real reason people type like this is just because they think its fun.

We do it just to make life not seem so boring. For example, if we sent an email that started off with “Dude!” it would sound kinda boring. But if we spelled it “Dood! (or d00d!)” then it lends a bit more emotion.

Also, you can express emotion or enthusiasm by modifying words that end in an “-er” sound:

Hax0r
Sux0r
Rox0r
Fux0r

Essentially, the emotion expressed by saying “d00d! that sux0rs!” basically means, “dude! that fucking sucks!!”

Here’s an interesting sentence seen in a Think Geek ad:

1337 HaX0r5 g07 j00 d0wn?

(Leet (or Elite) Hackers got you down?)

j00 is pronounced zhoo by the way…

h4x0r 533p r0x0rs
w00t!
(sorry, after using a computer for so long this actually looks cool to me) :confused:

It’s just a toy, but at http://ryanross.net/leet/ there is a tiny program you can download which automatically translates Standard English to leetspeek. It’s pointless, but kinda cute.

I think most people who have been online any length of time (to include crackers and other stereotypical leetspeekers) for the most part just use it as a joke nowadays, if they use it at all. Most of the use of it I’ve seen has been very tongue-in-cheek.)

(Or, if you will: mO5T 0PH tH3 Us3 Of 1T 1’Ve 5eeN h45 bE3n V3Ry +0nGue-IN-cHEeK.)

Dang… the url above doesn’t seem to be working now, maybe he was haxxored? At any rate, there’s a copy at http://www.cscentral.com/features/l33t/l33t_v12.zip at well, if you simply must try it.

I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve heard the “leet speek defeats searches” argument… The fact of the matter is, any hacker (by which I mean “hacker”, not “cracker” or “leet”) can easily search for such variations, with a line and a half of code… And at the time that this idiocy started, anyone who would have been doing such a search would be sufficiently skilled to do so.

Also, I don’t think search engines have anything to do with the origin of leetspeak.

That form of techno-dialect has been going on for 15 years or more, on BBS’s.

One of the, if not THE, first word written that way in cyberspace was “warez”, as in “Wares”. From there, it lead to Filez and Gamez and Appz and Crackz and eventually the term “Elite” came around, which eventually became “Leet”, then 1337.

BANG HEAD HERE

I cannot believe that this thread is not filled with objections to ‘hacker=|-|4><0R’!

I won’t even try. Just link. http://tuxedo.org/jargon/

I was going to chime in, but I think friedo handled it perfectly well. Those who are capable of getting it will get it from his post. Those who aren’t will never get it, no matter how many of us say it. The media has shown us that in their inability to understand hacker!=cracker.

INDEED! My geek cousin thinks he’s one of these
guys, next time im “posing” on one of the “LEET”
b0rDz im going to use this program! it works

Ho, +H4T5 ju5+ too D4mB PhuNNY!
(Ho, thats just TOO damb funy!

Spanx!

Janx!

ilL JU$T pO$t +hI5 aND 5E3 hOWM4Ny OPH j00 +h1Nk 1+5 $0 5TUPID 4s t0 nOt W@Rr3NT @ R35Pon$3

Now how come this thing wont translate “geek speek”
to english, and by the way - does bill gates know
about this program?

'scuse me while I whip out a “leet” letter to
gods own geek… Ta Tah

Janx!

So this is sort of a dweeb’s version of all that 70’s CB talk?

7h4Zz @ |316 10-4, 60oD |3uDd¥

-David

I gotta quit posting to these threads–I was actually looking for a capital 6 there for a second…

-David

bRE@K3r - 8RE4KeR 19, +Hi5 H3RE I5 ThE J4Nx aND Im @bOuT to PuT Teh H4MMer d0WN!

Could be worse, remember disco wasnt the only
weird thing we did back then…

Manx!

Janx.