Not really, In Pascal’s Wager the logic basically says that you might as well believe in God as if you are right, you might well go to heaven and if you are wrong it should not matter.
That does not appear to be what **Czarcasm ** posted. He pointed out that if the IPCC is correct, then we need to act as soon as possible. If they are wrong and we do act as soon as possible, we still end up with positives of less pollution and less reliance on foreign oil.
Jim (I try not to bother arguing with you, but I cannot seem to help myself.)
That’s a bit of a contradiction, since a critical thinking layperson (a True Critical Thinker?) would be likely to hire an architect for the job.
Anyway, I agree that there are some tasks that a non-expert probably is not competent to do. But understanding and evaluating a hypothesis is usually not such a task.
It depends on what the issues are and what study is involved.
I disagree, but it would be interesting to see how this quote applies to some of the more vocal pro-AGW posters here.
Do you know what’s more pathetic than a corporate shill?
Someone who spreads the message for free, hoping that his(in reality totally ignorant of his existence) masters will appreciate him and throw him a bone. Having no glory of his own, he basks in whatever reflected light he can find. Being a paid shill is merely dishonest-being a lapdog to someone who doesn’t know he even exists is dishonest and pathetic.
I’m not here to be your fucking dance partner, and you can take your stupid “gotcha” questions you could never have thought up yourself and shove them up high and hard, sideways.
I never fucking said I leave lights on in rooms I am not using at the time. I meant it as a sort of hyperbolic satirical commentary as in “If the whole family is sitting around the living room, everybody gather by one 40 watt light”.
I use energy saving bulbs actually, and I do turn off lights in unoccupied rooms.
Apologies, it wasn’t meant to be taken literally. :rolleyes:
Kimstu, how you can twist my words here: “or turn off every light in my house to sit by one 40 watt energy-saving bulb” into
Posted by Kimstu:
“But why on earth would you not want to turn off lights in your house that you’re not actually using? Even every light in your house that you’re not actually using? What possible good does it do you to have lights merrily burning away in rooms of your house that are unoccupied? Is it really that much work to hit the switch by the door when you enter or leave a room?”
is quite beyond me, and is in fact, complete fucking bullshit, and I would appreciate it if you would refrain from completely changing what I fucking said, dipshit.
That’s his schtick, accompanied with a healthy helping of lazy thinking, intellectual dishonesty, and socratic masturbation. I don’t know why anyone even dignifies him with a response anymore; he doesn’t even write in an interesting manner.
Not really Liberal, even if we cannot stop GW, most of the suggested fixes still lead to less energy consumption, less asthma related health issues and the always important less reliance on foreign oil. There are still many positives.
There there, calm down. I didn’t mean to “twist your words”: I simply said that I didn’t understand what you meant, because what you seemed to mean made no sense to me. When you said you didn’t want to “turn off every light in my house to sit by one 40 watt energy-saving bulb”, that seemed to imply that you thought it was an unreasonable burden to have to turn off all lights other than the one that you’re actually using. And since there doesn’t seem to be any point in leaving on any lights you’re not actually using, that made no sense to me.
Now that you’ve explained it, I understand, and I’m glad to see that you’re not actually advocating leaving unused lights burning just to enjoy wasting electricity.
I say screw it all. Turn on every light, we all drive Hummers, strip mine everything, pour our garbage directly into the oceans and set up a franchise of Spotted Owl On A Stick restaurants (all deep fried in oil made from baby seals). Burn through every resource we have, trash the environment and then leave the planet and try again someplace else.
Let’s face it. We lost the security deposit on this place a long time ago and the landlord hasn’t been coming around to fix anything. Fuck it.
Unfortunately, we’re nowhere near a point where that part of the plan could realistically mean anything more than “and then ship a minuscule number of people into some non-life-supporting extraterrestrial environment where they will all perish at the first serious system malfunction”.
It would take many millennia of Hummer-driving, strip-mining, garbage-dumping, owl-frying, resource-burning, planet-trashing environmental destruction on the part of human beings to make the earth’s environment even remotely approaching anything as inhospitable as any environment anywhere else.
For better or for worse, the vast majority of human beings for the foreseeable future are stuck with the planet we evolved to live on. Best not give up on it just yet.