Hey, jar,
Here’s somebody else who shares your opinion. NY Post
The thing that made me guffaw Oscar night was Denzel’s Best Actor award.
I think he’s one of the great American actors, mind you. But “Training Day?” I’ll admit I haven’t seen it, but I also didn’t hear any glowing reviews of his work in it. In fact, it probably wasn’t his best performance of the year - that would be as the father that takes the hospital hostage to save his boy, in the film whose name escapes me.
It was so blatantly a make-up award for not giving him an Oscar when he deserved one - for “The Hurricane.” The academy is famous for doing that. (Paul Newman doesn’t win for “The Verdict,” but does win for “The Color of Money”???)
The whole “celebration of African-American actors” came off as contrived and ham-handed to me, given Hollywood’s track record over the years.
And nobody’s seen Halle Barry’s movie, anyway, so it’s hard to comment on it. 
Or, in my book, Malcolm X.
You wrote Malcolm X?
Cool!
I never said they went into acting in hopes of winning an award. But Halle Berry’s Oscar will give a lot of non-Anglo folks encouragement that, if they’re good enough and try hard enough, they can be successful and get recognized for it.
For the same reason that Tiger Woods (who has a Philipino mother) is.
Who’s going to win the super bowl this year, Nostradumbass?
Ummm, Mr. Cynical…I think it’s a pretty safe bet.
Milo, I can’t speak for Denzel’s Oscar being a make-up for “The Hurricane”, but I did see “Training Day”, and his performance was nothing short of amazing. I think a large part of it was due to the total shift in the type of character he portrayed. Usually, he gets cast in the ‘noble hero’ role – and in “Training Day”, he was a low-down, crooked cop who stole, killed, lied and mind-fucked everyone around him to get what he wanted. His charisma on the screen was almost visible, and he played such a chillingly smooth bad guy that it was a genuine pleasure to watch.
I ordinarily don’t gush that much about actors’ performances, but I couldn’t have been much more impressed with his performance in “Training Day” than I was. So even if this was a make-up Oscar, I think with his performance, in my opinion he definitely deserved it anyhow.
Halle, you need to learn something if you are going to an awards show and you are up for something. ALWAYS ALWAYS write a speech. It take five minutes to pound out a dumb one and remember it. Tom Hanks did it. If you watched the Oscars at all, you would see quite a few people walk up with lists of people to thank or pointers for a speech. It is NOT tacky to do this! It makes you look organized! People reading this: if you are up for an award, have something to say prepared in advance. If you don’t, people think that you didn’t expect to win. Besides, would you want to be like Julia Roberts with her awful speech? Remember the big flap she got into over not thanking Erin Brockovich? Don’t let this happen to you!
Gosh, I hope you aren’t serious. I’d rather be/watch Julia & Halle gush and flip out ANY day than fall asleep watching Jennifer Connolly read her boring, emotion-free but prepared acceptance.
There is nothing remotely entertaining or exciting about watching someone read a prepared speech.
I’m not trying to argue with you. If people can draw strength and inspiration from this particular award, I think that’s great - mainly because the self righteous, navel gazing world of Hollywood managed to make a positive difference in someone’s life. I just think there are more meaningful things to celebrate and applaud - like black astronauts 
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What’s so bad about that??
Let’s see, not confident in yourself as an actor, poor preformance, bad movie, etc. I am not saying someone should be overconfident. However, as the Boy Scouts say, “be prepared.” If you don’t expect to win, why do you think you were nominated? To keep a chair warm?
Only WOMEN can win Best Actress, so dividing your 13% in half is wrong. Black women make up 13% of American women, and so if the talent pool is coming from the USA should have won 13% of Best Actress awards, or about 10 by now.
If black women were to win 13% of all awards, the odds of them not winning 73 years in a row out of sheer random chance would be about 1 in 300,000.
yeah, I know where you’re coming from, except I got the idea that she actually WASN’T considered the front runner by most pundits before the night. So if she didn’t expect to win, she’s in good company.
Believe me bbj, if your email address were available, I would take this off the board…but I’ll just ask you here in the very simplest of third grade terms.
WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN TO ME? 
I mean GOD DAMN woman. Is it because of that one Brett Favre thread? Is it because I just rub you the wrong way? Is it because my name starts with a j? What? I’ve barely been posting at all for the past two months, and I’ve been very careful to be considerate of everyone’s feelings, and I even addressed your posts in this thread without rancor or sarcasm or anything.
Of course it’s a slim chance that I’ll ever win an Oscar, it’s a slim chance that any of us will…but I am an actress, and not to toot my own horn, but a pretty good one…and I just don’t understand why you would take the time out of your day to post something in this forum assuring everyone that you think I am NOT a good actress.
In my efforts to kind of clear up past shit on these boards…I’d really like to know what I’ve done to put this rift between us.
jar
Errrrrr, I took BottledBlondeJeanie’s post to mean that it would be a cold day in hell before you won an Oscar as a black woman. No more, no less.
with a bit of historical reading, you would surely find that BottledBlondeJeanie’s post was yet another shot at jarbaby. That’s her M.O. don’t you know.
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Originally posted by rjung
I never said they went into acting in hopes of winning an award. But Halle Berry’s Oscar will give a lot of non-Anglo folks encouragement that, if they’re good enough and try hard enough, they can be successful and get recognized for it.
For the same reason that Tiger Woods (who has a Philipino mother) is.
Except Tiger’s mother is Thai…
And despite what IMDB says, I’m dubious on Cher being “Cherokee.” There are far, far too many people who claim they are part Indian. See:
http://www.brokenclaw.com/native/cherokee.html
And her it says “according to her” she’s 1/16th Cherokee:
Small nitpick…His mother is Thai.