I didn’t want to comment in the original thread, since the OP is mourning the loss of his relative, so this seemed to be the appropriate forum.
Um, no, you moron. In point of fact, doctors tend to greatly overestimate the prognosis of their patients; there was a study done with oncologists and cancer patients recently which showed this effect.
You utter twit. Of course doctors don’t ask parents about advance directives for their children, for several reasons. One, newborns are far less likely to die than ill elderly people. Two, THEY DON’T NEED A FREAKING ADVANCE DIRECTIVE, because their parents are already making all the decisions on their behalf. I’m unsurprised that you didn’t realize that, since you obviously know fuck-all about living wills, power of attorneys, DNR, or anything else medicolegal, medical, or legal. Idiots like you drive up healthcare spending by insisting that your dying elderly relatives are kept “alive” for months on end by extreme measures.
Oh, and your last point is logically incoherent. If doctors want to maximize their fees, shouldn’t they provide the maximum amount of futile treatment? Why would they be “clucking about a DNR order”? Jesus.
What an unfortunate attitude. Yeah, because you’d have to be an irredeemable prick to take a moment to ask a patient what they want and whether they’ve made any arrangements.
I wonder if he has any other secrets the medical community doesn’t want you to know?
Come now, a self described Fascist who argues for Hitler’s rationality and challenges what the Nazis are “alleged” to have done and talks about what the situation would be “if” the Holocaust happened and signs his posts with HH?
Since I couldn’t say it in the other thread, Cat Whisperer: Good job sticking up for a right-wing troll with extremely insavoury politics. You must feel really proud.
Not only is handsomeharry right about doctors all wanting to shut off life support so that we can sell new bed space*, M.D.s also specialize in telling terminal patients that they’ve got X months to live (secretly cackling with glee).
The truth of course is that if you go online to buy new WonderGlop™ about which doctors don’t want you to know, you’ll be cured. We’re all individuals and so there.
*Every time a bell rings, Jackmannii gets a handsome commission.
Also, my wife and I get asked about a living will every time we go to the hospital for anything down to a routine checkup, and we’re in our 30s. It’s standard practice to encourage everyone to plan ahead.
We now return you back to your regularly scheduled Nazi bashing.
FWIW- no fee in the world is ging to make me feel happier about futilely trying to resusciate a 90 year old with end stage dementia to salve her family’s guilt because they didn’t visit her at Christmas and never wore the horrid knitted sweaters she sent them on their birthdays.
There are better ways to go than stripped to the waist with someone pounding on your chest. If a 90 year old suffers a cardiac arrest, whether they have a DNR or not the end result is ultimately the same (you know the chances of coming back from an arrest are slim, and of coming back with brain intact and for any length of time- pretty miniscule), but if they have the DNR at least it will skip a lot of indignity.
I always find this sort of assertion hilarious. “I have a degree in history!”
Big Fucking Deal.
I teach college history, and i can tell you that there are plenty of people out there who managed to scrape through a college major in history with a whole lot of B-'s and C+'s, and who wouldn’t know a decent historical argument if it reached up and grabbed them by the balls. Hell, sometimes even the A students don’t really grasp, even by their senior year, many of the complexities of history, or the types of understanding required to make a nuanced historical argument. They often only have a basic understanding of how to use primary source evidence, or of how to evaluate competing and sometimes contradictory secondary source arguments.
I was a Good Student as an undergrad. I kicked ass in my history courses. But it wasn’t until i was a good couple of years into grad school, with all the reading and all the seminars that make up a good grad program, that i really began to understand a lot of that stuff. Of course, you don’t necessarily need to go to grad school; one of the benefits of history is that, with the right will and commitment, any interested person can teach themselves a lot of this stuff. The advantage of grad school is that you’re always around other people who love the subject, and you learn from one another.
But, much as it pains me to say it, simply having a degree in history really means jack shit.