Uh, my wife and I seemed to see one part differently. She says Ron does not kiss Hermione in this movie. I said that they did indeed kiss, off to the side when Harry is going somewhere else.
Who was right? Did they kiss?
I didn’t think it was a throwaway–it’s really the first bloodshed of the book, and sends the message that truly, no one is safe.
Also, I rather liked the more condensed ending, the (forgive me) “thousand points of wand-light” dissipating the Dark Mark. If they’d shown the funeral, it would have been like that god-awful maudlin ending to LOTR, which killed the climax.
I liked it, but I really thought they could have put more of the book in. Still, I understand that at 2+ hours, the filmmakers could only squeeze so much in. I did miss the funeral, Luna narrating the Quidditch match, and Fleur’s heavily accented declaration of her unconditional love for Bill (and Bill getting bitten by Fenrir Greyback, for that matter). And I liked the whole teen-drama subplot - the Lavender vs. Hermione scenes reminded me of that Paramore song “Misery Business.” Also loved Ron’s line after Harry and Ginny kissed and Harry is walking around looking ecstatic: “So, did you and Ginny do it? Hide the book, I mean.”
jackdavinci, I noticed the phallic broomstick also! I thought it was just me being a pervert, as usual.
One more thing, added in editing: I got something in my eye during the “holding up the wands” scene as well.
Your wife. Hermione and Ron do not cinematically consummate their love until near the end of Book 7. It’s a rush job, then, too.
There are obstacles and complications to their story, which I have no clue as to how the screenwriter is going to fix for the next 2 films.
I just saw it again last night with the entire family.
I am thinking that Dumbledore’s subduedness throughout the entire film was due to being cursed by the Ring. The curse was killing him anyways, and he knew it.
I am starting to think that Movie 7.1 will open with a funeral. The ending with Fawkes flying around and just the ambiguity of it all leads me to some kind of connection to 6 via a funeral.
[spoiler]In the last scene, Hagrid holds up a wand along with the others.
Hagrid does not have a wand (officially). His wand was snapped when he was blamed for opening the Chamber of Secrets. [/spoiler]
Other random thoughts -[ul][li]With all the stuff that was not in the book, I wonder how well someone who never read the books would be able to follow.[]Nothing at all about how Snape is the HBP beyond the title, and his bald declaration near the end. No back story - so the whole unrequited love for Lily does not appear. Either it will have to be in one of the two last movies, or a major dynamic of the whole series is lost.[]The teen age interactions were fantastic. Spot on. []Bellatrix is exactly the right mix of creepy/evil/hot. Her sing-song little “I killed Sirius Black” and the randomly petty spite of the attack on the Burrows, and the Muggle attacks, were perfect - “the banality of evil”. []Harry would never simply wait downstairs while Dumbledore is being killed. the actor doing Draco Malfoy did a fantastic job - conflicted fear, hatred, the wish to rescue his father, but he is not really evil. He can’t kill Dumbledore.[/ul]Overall, I loved it. Not as good as Goblet of Fire, but hey - what could be?[/li]
Regards,
Shodan
Meh. I thought this movie, like all the movies, just weren’t that good. The books have a certain innocent charm to them that you just can’t carry to a movie. They always seem to fall flat to me.
I did laugh a few times and thought the humor was geniune and not forced. And as always Snape was perfect. Makes me want to go back and read the book again tho!
BUT the clock says 1035? Why is that a noteworthy detail?
That backstory wasn’t in the book either, though. It wasn’t revealed until Deathly Hallows. In Half-Blood Prince Harry also doesn’t know that Snape is the Half-Blood Prince until Snape tells him, and it happens pretty much like in the movie. The movie mostly just cut a lot of fruitless speculation on the part of Harry & Friends about who the Half-Blood Prince might be.
I’m gonna agree with this, but also throw out (again) my (second) favorite line in all of HP:
No unforgivable curses for you Potter!
(They better keep my favorite line in 7)
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[ul][li]With all the stuff that was not in the book, I wonder how well someone who never read the books would be able to follow.[/li][li]The teen age interactions were fantastic. Spot on. []Bellatrix is exactly the right mix of creepy/evil/hot. Her sing-song little “I killed Sirius Black” and the randomly petty spite of the attack on the Burrows, and the Muggle attacks, were perfect - “the banality of evil”. []Harry would never simply wait downstairs while Dumbledore is being killed. the actor doing Draco Malfoy did a fantastic job - conflicted fear, hatred, the wish to rescue his father, but he is not really evil. He can’t kill Dumbledore.[/ul][/li][/QUOTE]
I’m in agreement on all the points quoted. Especially “Harry would never wait…” That was baffling. His heroism aside, his Snape-hatred aside, when has Harry ever refrained from interfering in something, even when told not to do so?
Which is?
I don’t understand why they did not include the whole Ron/Ginny fight from the book. That, at least, explains Ron’s eird behavior with regards to Lavender. In the movie ot doesn’t really make sense, he seems in to Hermione, she invites him to the Christmas party, and then - bang! He’s making out with Lavender.
Yeah, but he got reinstated between CoS and PoA. I should think he was allowed to purchase a new wand, or have his old one repaired, at that time, and use it legally.
there is no spoon?
in the books hagrid is still using the pink brolly. perhaps he hasn’t finished his mail order courses from hogwarts yet.
Because the scene prior to them apparating into the village is one of the girl and her boss locking up the cafe and she’s looking around for Harry. It’s a time discontinuity issue. It was just something I noticed.
I looked for Hagrid to be holding a wand in that scene and didn’t see it(?)
You’re not alone. As soon as I saw Hagrid, I looked to see if he was holding a wand, and I couldn’t see it. There is someone’s arm right behind him that for a moment confused me, and I can’t help but think that is what some other folks are seeing.
Ah. I thought it went: Waitress tells him when she’s free, Harry looks anticipatory, Harry looks out the window and sees Dumbledore, Harry joins Dumbledore on the platform, they Apparate.
I missed the locking-up scene. But then, I’ve only seen it once, so I’ll defer to your greater knowledge.
Be interesting if when Hermione, Ron and Harry make their bolt for Muggle-land in Deathly Hallows, they wind up in the same cafe, with the same waitress.
It was definitely the Elder Wand. I paid attention all through Order of the Phoenix and was glad that they kept the same wand.
The problem I had with the wand being on Dumbledore’s desk was this: wasn’t it supposed to be buried with him? Isn’t there a big-ass “let’s dig the old boy up and get his wand” scene in Deathly Hallows?
I thought maybe she was looking around to make sure he wasn’t there yet, because she was just flirting with him for the sake of her tip and had lied about when she got off. 