Has anybody read "She said yes"

Factual Questions
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I’m putting this here because I don’t want it to turn into a religious debate.
It’s about Cassie Bernall a Columbine student killed When asked if she believed in God.
A church in a town near here gave 374 copies to 6th thru 12th graders at their community school.Now they are giving 125 books to christian school students in our town.
The newspaper says that they are hoping local churches will supply books for the rest of the public school kids.
My question is, aside from the obvious religious theme,what is the book about. Anti Gun,anti black trenchcoat etc.

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NBC news was in town yesterday to tape the book giveaway. It’ll be on Today on the 14th.

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You could probably look it up on amazon.com. They should have a review along with several customer comments.

“That’s impossible! Cartman doesn’t know a rainforest from a Pop-Tart!”
“Yes I do! Pop-Tarts are frosted!”

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I need to proofread my posts.
It is the 17th

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The real shame about this book is that the events it descibes (on that day at Columbine) didn’t happen. The police interviewed the kid that provided most of the eyewitness testimony for her actions. It seems that he scrambled the events up. Bernal was not at the table where he said it happened. The person who actually did say “yes” survived the attack. Bernal’s father has continued his speaking tour and does not accept the police version of events. He says that if his daughter died for no reason at all, he’d hate God. He believes what he needs to believe.

-LabRat

ps. To the author’s credit, most of the book deals with her life before the attack.

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I’ve read exerpets ? of this book. Is just isn’t so that she said yes, what happened is that either Kleibold or the other one slammed his hand on the desk, said Peekaboo and shot someone.

Either Eric or Dylan did ask one gal if she believed in god, and when she said yes, asked her why and then let her go.

lindsay

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The woman who actually answered that she believed in God was a girl named Valeen Schnurr, who subsequently survived. Now she has nasty shotgun wounds which, if someone asks her where they came from she is reluctant to tell them because she is living proof that the martyrdom of Cassie Bernal never happened. She has become an embarrassment to her own religion.

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Salon.com had an excellent article about the real story about who said yes.http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/30/bernall/index.html

I’m spending way too much time on SD tonight.

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Yes, this is typical of they lies and christian propaganda i suppose. Take for example my cousin who no longer likes Pokemon. Why? Her church told her they are satanic, and that pokemon is japaneese for “worship satan”. What bullshit

“Through twilight, darkness and moonrise
My scarlet tears will run
As stolen blood and whispered love
Of fantasies undone”

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Let’s not be so hard on the parents here. While I am all for pertinent facts coming out, and it seems dubious at best that Cassie ever said anything (let alone “yes”), the fact is that there is no reason to run her parents through the wringer just because they got some false information and hold onto that as they grieve for their daughter.

Let’s show a little compassion for the parents here!

Now, if some other religious person comes along and points to what a great martyr Cassie was, all I would say is that the evidence shows that not only was she not a martyr, but that the way she really was, she would not want to think that her death was any less tragic than the deaths of anyone else there, and ask them how many other victim’s names do they remember?

Yer pal,
Satan

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Satan,
I agree with you. Obviously the loss of his daughter is catastrophic and he’s trying to force it to make sense. I don’t see any sense in confronting the man and removing his only solace. I like the idea of foma in Kurt Vonnegut’s “Cat’s Cradle”. Foma are harmless lies that you tell yourself in order to get along in the world. The question, however, is at what point do these lies stop being harmless?

-LabRat

A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he’s pissed.

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Shagrath Borgir wrote:

This sort of bullshit, of course, is by no means exclusive to Christianity. This kind of zealotry and disinformation shows up no matter where you look on the political, religious or idealogical spectra. Christians didn’t invent it, and they don’t have a monopoly on it.

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Johnny, they may not have a monopoly on it, but there’s more of them than anyone else.

I sold my soul to Satan for a dollar. I got it in the mail.

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Surgoshan wrote:

But it’s still a universal case, whereas Shagrath Borgir treated it as a special characteristic of Christianity.

I once thought that the people who had the same political and religious slant as me would also share my concern for intellectual integrity, honesty and fairness in public discourse and the need to constantly re-examine one’s own views in the light of new evidence. Ah, to be young again.