Has the fashion police really been disbanded (an end of dominant trends)?

One IMO very positive change I have observed over the past decade is that it seems to have become much easier to have your own look and style than it used to be. During the past 9 or 10 years, a significantly bigger variety has come about in how people dress and groom themselves than there was in any decade prior to the recently ended “new tens”. Not that there aren’t any fashion trends of any kind at all, but these seem to be more varied and less dominant and prevalent than they used to be. What is behind this change, and is it a true progress in the way of thinking of the fashion industry and people at large, or is this just an illusion with some other kind of explanation?

I would surmise that until quite recently, each decade could be visually defined by a set of trends. If you look at old photographs, until very recent times you would be hard-pressed to find a person that “has their own style”; on people from e.g. the 1930s, 40s or 50s, if there’s any individuality, it’s found in really subtle details or constricted within certain clearly defined bounds. I have seen group photos from those decades where every female has the same width of dress and practically the same hemline, and 90 percent of them seem to have the exact same hair length and their hair curled more or less in the same way. Sure, if you look at lots and lots of photos from a given period, you will see some people who are a little different in some aspect of their appearance, but no one seems to deviate beyond certain bounds. While it seems to have been easier to “have your own style” since, say the late 1960s, the decades right through the 70s and the 80s still had well-defined trends. The 90s and 00s are harder to define in terms of fashion, but still I would definitely say that the idea of fashions dominating the look of a season/decade lasted right through the “noughties”, which I would describe as a time where they took existing looks and gave everything a “rough edge” (examples: asymetrical skirts, sweatshirts with patches sewn on them, jeans faded in places so as to show a grid in the weave). I myself managed to avert most of the typical styles of the 00s as, being a guy, “the basics” (e.g. jeans in a basic Levis-type cut, plain t-/sweatshirts, plaid shirts) were always readily available, but I would not be so sure about some sensible women’s clothes. In particular, I would say the following two styles were prevalent to the point of ubiquitousness:

  1. Low-waisted pants: this one almost needs no introduction. At some point in the decade, they literally almost discontinued the production of ladies’ pants - certainly jeans - that covered the natural waist. Pants that barely touched the midriff and in some cases ended barely above the pubic region were everywhere. Shirts and sweaters were often made shorter as well, so that they and the pants waist just barely touched, flashing an inch or so of midriff here and there. Or she would cover up her midriffs with a long tube top and wear a visibly shorter cardigan or t-shirt over it. Leaning forward often meant a flash of panties/the butt crack. Whereas high-waisted jeans were perfectly normal in the early 90s, by the mid-noughties they began to be called “mom jeans” as if they were somehow frumpy. Low-waisted pants even made an inroad into men’s fashion.

  2. Layered hair. From a certain point, in the 00s, whatever length of hair you had, having it just one length was “out”. There could be a bit of confirmation bias going on here, but I recall that at one point, it seemed like almost everyone had some layers, thinning or feathering in their hair, as if having your hair trimmed to one length were somehow inferior. Ca. 2000, before this became so ubiquitious, a trend toward shags, or a haircut between a bob and a spiky shag had some popularity. Towards 2008, the bob came back in style, but it was invariably some variation on the “A-line” or angled bob with the front longer and the back shorter, at times even assymetric. Most women at one point seem to have had at least a nod to this fashion, such as layers around the face or the last few inches of their hair thinned. Again, there could be a confirmation bias here based on reading selective online material, but going back some years, there were numerous discussion threads, and some articles, where women complained that their hairdressers were pushing these styles on them, ranging from unsolicited offers to layer their hair to adding them of their initiative when the writer had only asked for a trim or even against her specific instructions not to.

So how does this compare to more recent times?

Over the last decade, the offer of clothing styles has become much more varied than in the past - go for example to somewhere where they sell jeans, for men or women, and you will find various cuts, colors and washes in one place. Women can get high-waisted jeans again, or those with a somewhat lower waist if they prefer. There are many stores which specialize in specific styles of clothing: for example, in Toronto I saw a shop called Haight-Ashbury, which specfically sells 1960s hippie-inspired clothing. Retro/vintage clothing is a thing; with a little effort, you can now make yourself look more or less exactly like someone from the 80s, 90s or 00s, with a little more effort you can emulate looks from earlier decades as well without having to sew your own clothes. I have seen one or two online shops that specifically advertise as giving the client the possibility to choose goods in line with his or her own style. This is not to say that there have been NO trends in the past 9 or 10 years. Circa 2012 I can recall trends such as checked dress shirts or hair worn in a tight, geometric bun/topknot; circa 2015, some hipster fashions made some inroads into the main stream; in the last year or two there have been 90s-inspired micro skirts with buttons and dresses with spaghetti straps, also jeans similar to 80s acid washed jeans, let’s see what else: old-fashioned pleated skirts, chrome yellow beanies, ladies’ winter hats with double pompons…but here’s the thing. As far as I can tell, none of these trends seem to dominate. They’re all part of a wide variety that you can mix and match.

So my question is: what is behind this change, which I would consider an improvement? Is the current variety in styles and offer the result (as I hope it is) of people wanting to have their own style, rejecting conformity and valuing individuality and good body image, with fashion designers, beauticians, etc. recognizing this, accepting it and accommodating it? What could have been the impetus that caused the apparent abrupt change from prevailing fashion trends to a “no fashion” fashion approach circa 2011? Could the internet have something to do with it (e.g. the industry becoming wary of people posting online complaints against trends they felt were being pushed on them, or online shops offering styles that brick-and-mortar shops didn’t, causing the latter to follow suit?) Or is it something else entirely, that I am missing?

My theory is that it does have to do with the internet, but not in the way you mention. Back in the olden days, in the long long ago times :wink: everyone was sharing the same culture. We were much more homogenous. Everyone listened to the same limited sources of music and watched the same limited sources of TV or movies. Now that we can all go our own way, we do! And it carries over into fashion.

P.S. - I am so glad I can buy high-waisted jeans again!

I think I agree with this.

As someone who has not bought clothes in a store in over a decade, I find buying them online to be much more convenient, but also there is far more available.

A store has to stock what they think will be popular, they have limited shelf space, and they need product to move. They will try to follow or even create fashion trends in order to facilitate this.

With the internet, you can simply buy whatever it is that you want from a warehouse somewhere, which is far less concerned about trying to get you to buy what they have on the shelf right now.

For a long time, certainly through the 1950s, there were two types of clothes - work clothes and dress clothes. Dress clothes were comparatively expensive, made from natural fabrics and often extensively hand-sewn. Middle-class people didn’t use dress clothes as a fashion statement.

All of that started to change in the 60’s, with a more casual culture, more (and less expensive) artificial fabrics, and more offshore labor making for a less expensive, but still presentable, class of clothes. People could afford to try different looks. The final nail in the coffin was the breakdown of office dress codes in the 1990s and later.

I agree. It seems that if I look at a picture, I can tell whether it was in the 50s, 60s, 70s, or 80s (maybe a couple of carry over years, like say in 1982 someone was still wearing 70s clothes or hairstyles).

But if you plopped someone down from 1997, his clothes wouldn’t stand out at all. Same with hairstyle. I don’t see any discernable difference in the 90s, 00, 10s or early 20s.

What’s changed is that you’re getting old, and all those youngsters look alike. Fashion continues; you’re just oblivious to it. For instance, how many young women did you see in 2000 wearing leggings? How many young women today do you see not wearing leggings?

The Fashion Police has not been disbanded, but they have been Abolished and Defunded.

Why do you confine it to “young”?

I certainly don’t dispute that I am getting old, but let’s just compare. I don’t think any old person in 1997 would have said, “You could plop someone down from 1974 today and couldn’t tell the difference in their clothes and hairstyle.”

Leggings and minor things like that come and go, but you wouldn’t really notice it. Put someone from 1974 in 1997 and people would be visibly pointing and laughing.

Yes, yes they would stand out. I suspect that we’re too close to the fashion now to see it as anything but “normal” and most of the people on this message board are probably too old to be hyperaware of fashion.

I remember thinking the same thing in the 90s, that there wasn’t really a “style.” But when I see “Friends” reruns, it’s very clear that what Monica and Rachel are wearing (which were the cool/stylish versions of “normal” at the time) is very out of place now. It’s noticeable when it goes from show to commercial and back. There’s a clear difference between the 00s (when the show ended) and today. There’s a big difference between the mid-90s and today.

I suspect that 20 years from now people will look at what we’re wearing and be able to pick out “the twenty-teens” pretty easily (all those yoga pants! what were they thinking?)

There was a thread a long time ago where someone said that school aged boys fashions hadn’t changed in 40 years- the person had the perception that they hadn’t changed, but one of reasons he thought so was because he was thinking of one particular outfit that hadn’t really changed in all that time. Another was because he was looking at boys’ styles rather than girls’. And I think you might have something like that going on as well.

Sure, there are going to be a lot of styles and haircuts that look very similar from the 90s to the 20s . But I haven’t seen a velour tracksuit since the 00s and there was one particular year where pink and brown was a popular color combination - but I never saw it before and rarely see it since. Now it seems like popular men’s hairstyle is shaved ( or close to it ) and I don’t recall seeing nearly so much of that in the 00s.

I don’t think any old person in 1997 would have said, “You could plop someone down from 1974 today and couldn’t tell the difference in their clothes and hairstyle.”

Like I said - it depends. You wouldn’t be able to tell that 1974 me was from 1974 in my jeans, T shirt and canvas sneakers with my long, straight center-parted hair. Because all of those have been common from the 70’s until now (except for a short period of time when I don’t remember canvas sneakers).

Since this isn’t a simple factual question, it’s better suited to IMHO than GQ.

Colibri

Skinny high-water pants on men’s suits.

I confined my statement to “young” both because that’s where you see the greatest effect of current fashion (there’s a tendency for older people to keep on wearing the styles of their youth), and because I’m a teacher, and therefore the majority of the people I see are young, and so I’m not as qualified to comment on what older folks are wearing.

I’m sure that leggings are more common now than they used to be, among any age cohort, but I don’t know how much more common.

1974 me would be wearing skin tight hip hugger jeans that had a zipper about 1.5 inches long, elephant bells 22" wide and a halter top and there ain’t NO way you wouldn’t peg that as “not from this century.” That was California, though, and you’d see way less of that look in, say Minnesota during the same time frame.

I do applaud the trend toward more practical clothing that isn’t confining and hard to move around in, that’s always been a pet peeve of mine–women’s clothes especially go through cycles of this type and every time I just skip it and go shop in the men’s section for practical clothes. I’m definitely not a fashion forward type!

Most of my clients are middle aged or older.

The women certainly have taken a liking to very tight leggings. Very tight.

Yes, I hate cap sleeves and crop tops and any women’s clothing that is intended to look too small.

Right? I’m not six and I refuse to dress like I am!

Pretty sure you’d notice that these guys from 1997ish are not from 2020 (though I miss stovepipe jeans!)

Like, so tight you can see what they are or are not wearing underneath, right? They do this proudly. It confounds me.