Hate. Love. Despair. Choices.

I don’t see anything wrong with people venting on a message board of like-minded people when they’ve been sorely disappointed.Let 'em vent. They’ll feel better bye’n’bye.

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I would dearly love to know what field Staci (with an i!) has her Ph.D. in, out there in Hollywood. Just for giggles, you know.

Thanks for the glurge, Stoid :rolleyes:

If, by “lately,” you mean since November 2000, then yes, I agree. But this isn’t true with Stoid. She (and a whole host of other liberals here with a distorted sense of perspective) has been doing her Chicken Little act since the last election. It can hardly be described “lately.”

Stoid, hang in there. Read Josh Marshall’s comments here. Pay no attention to the uninteresting monger of shit who thinks his production of excrement is high parody. He has nothing important to say to you. As you ignore the faux villain, place your attention less, also, on the actual villains, but more on the message your friend has shared. There is hatred and ignorance, yes, but there’s also love.

And there is a breaking point beyond which the sheer volume of corruption, disregard for duty and ideological madness evinced by this administration (and defended by the turdmonger and by those like him) must inevitably overcome the culture of ignorance in this country and become visible to middle America. We just haven’t reached that point yet. But it’s coming. Despite a failing fourth estate, despite the highly developed right wing media infrastructure, despite the fear which fogs so many minds in our country today, the breaking point is coming.

And there will be a reckoning.

And during the necessary worsening of corruption and fear and nationalistic hatred, we’ll need to demonstrate that love your friend promotes. And especially during and after the reckoning we’ll need that love. So keep it close, always.

Your friend, xeno.

A thing of beauty, Scylla. Truly.

Good lord, milroyj is back? I thought you had been banned!! I demand a recount!

What I find odd is that so many people seem so genuinely surprised that Bush won. I mean, poll after poll after poll after poll in the months heading into the election had Bush ahead. The only time I had a glimmer of hope was when the exit polls hit Drudge. I never really thought Kerry stood a chance in hell, considering the south and middle America, and the fact that Kerry’s platform was largely based on being NotBush, rather than something of substance.

It was the Democrats’ election to lose, and they lost it spectacularly, and I think the next four years will be difficult. I do hope the Republicans prove me wrong, but they’ve already spectacularly disappointed me in the last four years.

Exactly! Reading through that post, I thought to myself “why is he holding back so much”.

From reading what many have posted over the past couple of days it is clear that Scylla’s post was free from any and all exageration or hyperbole. That is exactly and quite literally how some people seem to feel. We really need a skilled psycologist to explore this phenomenon more fully. It’s fascinating.

A brilliant bit of buffoonery satirizing the worst of ultraliberal fears.

Is it not, though, inconceivable to the moderates and conservatives of this board, that people can find the gradual erosion of generally accepted minor freedoms in the name of security, and the sub rosa reinstatement of the spoils system, to be symptomatic of something wrong with our culture? Look, I have no problem going through metal detectors and emptying my pockets if I take a plane or enter a courthouse or public office building; I have nothing to hide. But the fact that I have to these days where I didn’t four years ago, says something to me about where we are at. I don’t have a problem with Mr. Cheney trusting and taking advice from the businessmen he worked with when he was in the private sector – but that gives them an “in” on shaping policy – and it would take a very strong sense of propriety not to take advantage of that relationship to shape that advice to benefit their companies, and a supple conscience could even see that shaping as totally moral, on the “good for G.M. (or Exxon-Mobil) is good for America” theory.

I think that understanding instead of stereotyping is a good idea – but it needs to go both ways. Working together should entail compromise and consensus, not acquiescence – and Mr. Bush’s opinion of “bipartisanship” seems to be token recognition of Democrats in exchange for acquiescence in his somewhat egotistic sense of knowing what’s right for America. (I stress that that’s my perception, not an accusation.)

And, given Scylla’s post, it’s only fair to give a variant on the newest catch phrase in response:

:smiley:

Thank you, xeno, poly. I love you guys.

I’m feeling a little…stronger today. Not better, that’s not really accurate. Stronger. Moving more into anger and determination and away from grief.

And xeno, at the bottom of it, of all the other feelings, love is the motivating emotion. I love my country. I love my species. I love my planet. BushCo is a grave threat to them all.

Stoid, maybe he really Won’t ruin everything.
Theres hope.

Yes, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Keep your eyes focused on the Great and powerful OZ. Maintain the head up the ass position at all costs.

I would have thought there would be a breaking point at which at which more and more severe collisions with reality would demonstrate the irrelevant stupidity of this false and hateful viewpoint.

Remember how the Clinton haters became a joke. The worm has turned. Nobody takes this evil empire paranoid delusion seriously, anymore.

One of the classic signs of insanity… or is it stupidity, is repeating the same failed experiment over and over again looking for a different result. Your attempt to demonize the opposition has failed. Nobody beleives this bullshit accept for small groups of increasingly irrelevant and dismissable left wing nutjobs who seek validation from a shrinking pool of those who refuse to get it.

The people who disagree with you are not evil, are not stupid, are not a conspiracy. We are the majority. Your insistance to the contrary makes you stupid and evil.

I am sick of the demonizers, and you and Stoid are two of the worst.

Your a fucking joke. Grow up already.

You missed it. It was just here. The reckoning occured and you reaped it.

I’m not seeing any love from you or Stoid. Your version of love is to hate those who hold different opinions from you. Because your opinions didn’t win, rather than retrench, reposition and be graceful for the next contest, you have chosen to indulge in this weepy paranoid fantasy that truth and justice have failed, and you just can’t understand how the world has failed you and succumbed to evil.

Self indulgent tripe. Fucking baby.
You lose because you don’t fucking fight your ideas. You, Stoid, Moore, Franken and a lot of the rest of the liberal culture has chosen incendiary rhetoric, fear tactics, and demonization over simply trying to promote their core beliefs and ideas and have them compete against the core beliefs and ideas of their opposition.

You’ve taken your best shot at demonizing your opponents for four years. The best shot you’ll ever take.

It didn’t work.

But feel free to carry on the same old failed experiment.

Keep digging through that pile of shit buddy. There’s gotta be a pony in there somewhere.

Still mongering? No thank you.

Am I the only one who first read the Thread Tilte as : " Hate. Love. Despair. Chickens" ? :smack:

You didn’t miss it; It was classified! (Psst. Don’t worry. Bruce Willis and Ben Affleck have been dispatched to handle it.)

That’s easy. You get out of bed and go to work like everyone else.

He was a fearmonger
But no one was stronger
For so were his father and mother before
And they each preached their scare-oh
From L.A. to Harrow
Crying “Al Qaeda and Arabs, Alive, Alive, Oh!”

I’m sure you’ll acknowledge this happens pretty much equally on both sides.

OOOWWWW!

I’ve been Gilberted and Sullivanized.
Dammit. I hate that.

What kind of limp excuse for a human being is wracked with emotional pain from disappointing election results? If you lived in a country like pre-war Afghanistan where you weren’t allowed to vote, then you’d have a right to complain. Go finger paint with the kids you fucking hippy. Leave the adults to discuss politics rationally.