Have pity on me - I got what I asked for

I always wanted a big old fixer-upper house. (actually what I really want is a big old beautiful already fixed house, but that’s laughably far out of my price range)
I live in the suburbs. I do not like modern subdivisions. (nothing personal - I’m sure they’re fine for everyone else etc.)
This winter I found a house listed in my area. It’s on a dead-end street (I hate the term cul de sac - makes me think of dog testicles) on a nice lot. Three quarters of an acre terminating in woods at the back, neighbors aren’t too close on either side. It has a two car garage and and big wrap-around porch. It has four bedrooms and six fireplaces. The house was built around 1810.
It is a wreck.
It was priced attractively.
After much hassle and rigamarole, we bought it.
Now comes the smacking of foreheads and the tearing of hair.
Sweet baby Deity on a Triscut, what have I got myself into?!

The windows are original wavy (leaky) glass. In original leaky frames. There is no insulation. (we were told the attic was insulated, but only 1/4 of it actually is - more on that later) The box gutters are rotting. The roof is 20yrs old (but in decent shape with the exception of the hole in the porch roof). It needs extensive replastering. It has one nasty working bathroom with a shower stall, exposed sub-flooring, and a window that’s disintigrating. I’ve got small children that must bathe in a clawfoot jerry-rigged in the basement. The fireplaces need overhauled. There’s a deck on the back, but it’s falling off. The whole place needs a good scrap and repaint. Some of the clapboards need replacing. The wiring is. . . interesting.

On the other hand, it’s got high ceilings, lots of windows, great hardwood floors, a den downstairs, a nice big kitchen, and a rather open floor plan for its age. Much of the original woodwork remains. It’s got a brand spanking new high efficiency boiler. The rooms are generously sized, it’s got a dry (Ha! More on that later) basement, and more character than you could shake a stick at. (don’t shake too hard, you’ll dislodge paint chips)

And today it’s got a pond of raw sewage in the basement.
And while I was down there picking up chunks of human excrement from the floor I learned the real reason the deck is falling off the back of the house. We thought it was only because rather than bolting it to the header of the house, they nailed it with 10 penny nails to the siding. We figured we would jack it up and bolt it properly. Yesterday I learned the header that we planned to bolt it to is rotted to the point of see-through in spots.
le sigh

And when I’ve mentioned this to people, they say, “Didn’t your inspector find these things?”
Well, you see, we waived the home inspection. Go ahead and call us fools. We knew that the foundation was sound, and we knew about all the other problems the place had. We knew a house in this condition of this age is going to have issues. An inspector wouldn’t have predicted the sewage back-up, and it passed the township’s required sewage testing. There was nothing an inspector was going to say that was going to dissuade us from buying the place, other than “massive termite damage.” (yes, we did have a pest inspection - it passed just fine) Maybe a kind inspector would have beat us on the head with a rubber mallet. I sort of wish he had at the moment.

I am fine with all the problems as long as they’re problems I or my husband can tackle. We can rewire (oh, the joys of having electrical savy men in my family), we can do basic plumbing. We can roof and hang gutters. We can paint. We can drywall. We can replace windows. In fact, we’ve done almost all of these things on our last house. But when we get into call a contractor to jack the house up territory, particularly when we’ve yet to sell our last house and money is getting tight. . . oy. I like a challenge, but I’m all challenged out right now. And the rat bastard previous owners never mentioned the rot in the header. And I have reason to believe they knew about it. (found a highlighted section about fixing rotted joists in a home improvement book they left behind) And they flat out lied about the insulation.

So I’m feeling a little overwhelmed today. I’m glad I’m at work and my husband is at home with the RotoRooter guy. I’m grateful for wine, as it helps me with my whine. (until I wake up at 3:00 a.m. from nightmares about wading through sewage and realise that the wine buzz has worn off) Looking at old house restoration blogs has helped me feel a little less stupid, a little more like this can be done. At least I know others share my self-destructive love of old houses.

Somebody please tell me I’m not totally crazy.

Congratulations – welcome to the Neverending Project Homeowners Club, Old Fixer-Upper Chapter! Circa 1860 Victorian, here.

This past weekend was spent on the roof sludging down fresh tar (Whoops! Forgot the sunscreen…does my back is more of a “crimson” or a “deep rose” to you?), and next weekend will be spent remodeling the bathroom. Joy!

But hey, once everything is finally all done, you get to sit back, relax, and say “No, just lemme sleep five more minutes! I was having such a wonderful dream! Everything in the house was all done!”

Ok, seriously…it sounds like you’ve got a long, hard road ahead, but it also sounds like you’ve got an absolutely beautiful home waiting at the end. Good luck, and make sure to take a ton of pictures every step of the way!
Oh yeah…still need to get new kitchen curtains, too…

I’m in almost exactly the same situation. I bought at auction a house built in 1840. 10’ and 12’ ceilings, 4 fireplaces and 13 acres. And very solid. Wonderful! Also no insulation, the original (wavy) windows, the hardwood floors are all painted and need refinishing. One bathroom, which has a rotting floor and needs to be gutted and redone. The first winter I had rats in the attic! (the new movie Rattatoille really didn’t enchant me) And I’ve lived here for 3 years and have done little to it. I love my house, really I do, but a fire would be convenient if I could make sure all the animals were out first.

I have only my very modest income to make upgrades, so I knew things would go slowly, and a lot of it is sheer laziness on my part. But I so wish I could wave a magic wand and poof it would all be done and I wouldn’t be camping out in my own home.

StG

1928 bungalow here - in way better shape than your beauty, but every time I try and do something, the one thing turns into 20. You never know what’s behind that old wall or under that old house or in that old attic, do you? And trust me, I feel your window pain. No pun intended.

One step at a time has been helpful for me. Can’t think kitchen too hard now, 'cause I’m working on garage.

Wishing you luck and joy in your new home!

Like my step-son said when we moved into our 1910-era house: “Oh, man, why did we have to move into a house with character?!”

Wait until you wake up wading in sewage at 3:00 AM and hope your still dreaming.

Sounds like priorities would be to make sure damaged areas don’t grow in scope, and be sure dangerous conditions are removed if not replaced, and get insulated as soon as possible.

Your post made me think of the Money Pit, one of those movies my brother and sister and I watched all the time when we were kids.

My house was built in the 20’s, and since it doesn’t have any fireplaces(damn it), that’s one less thing to fix. However, when I moved in, the only way to get into the attic, where the A/C compressor is, was a large hole cut out of the ceiling. So after a few months of dragging out the 8 foot ladder every time I wanted to change the filter, I’ve now got fold-down attic stairs that are slightly less frightening. Last time I changed the filter(and it’s about time I did it again), one of my cats scaled the stairs behind me. It’s really not so much fun to descend steep attic stairs one handed with a complaining Siamese in the other arm. She’s not invited this time.
-Lil

You said it best, even if it was Freudian. Watch out for all the lead based paint around your children, too.

Hee! I have many customers in just your situation, which helps pay the bills in Casa de Cats.

Some books which are offered for your perusal:
The Old-House Journal Guide to Restoration
Renovating and Restoring Vintage Homes
Troubleshooting Guide to Residential Construction
and if applicable, The Lost Art of Steam Heating

Enjoy, and good luck.

Thanks for the suggestions! Ironically, it was in the above mentioned book that I found the bit about how to sister joists highlighted.
Lousy goodfornothin rassafrassin previous owners…

If you’re young, I envy you. We’re not. And so, we bought our home already restored. It’s a hundred years old, with all the original beadboard wall and black gum flooring. Do yourself a favor. Take your time. Do it right. It will take at least two years, maybe longer. But when you’re finished, it will be a showplace that is the envy of everyone. Congratulations. :slight_smile:

I owned a restored 1890’s Victorian for awhile. Man, I loved that house, especially since all the work had been done, and done well. High ceilings, tall windows, big rooms – I suppose those things can be found in new homes too, but it’s not the same.

I envy you, even with all the work you’ll be doing. Will there be photos of your progress? I’d love to see the wrap-around porch!

You are going to get some empathy but not much emplathy here.

circa 1760 true colonial on 2 1/2 acres checking in. We bought it 6 years ago in almost unihabitable condition. Nights and weekends were spent working on it, vacations were spent working on it, we pumped about $300,000 into the work even though we did everything we could ourselves. The land had to be restored as well and I still work in that all the time. It looks great now and can proudly carry the label of “fully restored”. After all of that, it is still remarkably original in the main part of the house.

Make yourself enjoy the process even it may seem hopeless at times.

Best of luck.

Thank you for splashing a bit of cold water on my current house fantasy…

There is a beautiful victorian here in our town, that is in such terrible shape… We could probably pick it up for about $30,000, but we would need another $90 to get the walls redone, the floors repaired, and the kitchen finished (it looks like someone started at some point, and ran out of time/money. Heck, part of the “new” countering is bolted to the wall, covering a hole.).

I have been racking my brain for months trying to figure out how to pull it off, and was beginning to think that with my new experience in doing one room, I could do this whole house…

Thank you. Thank you thank you thank you!

I’d start writing to all those DIY shows and see if they’ll take your house on as a project. Even if they only help you with a small portion of it, it’s something. Good luck! It’s going to be a loooong ride but I’m sure it’ll be worth it!

Now that your brain is racked, it’s time for someone to break. :wink:

Old houses in disrepair need someone who will offer them love and understanding.

There are many pluses, such as discovering folded up pages from now defunct newspapers stuffed in crevices around doors as insulation. A customer was gleeful when I produced a page from the Philadelphia Bulletin with an ad for a 1961 Plymouth Valiant, which happened to be the homeowner’s first car. :smiley:

That’s an *excellent * idea!

You hang in there, it will get better. And as it gets better, ever so slowly, you will love it even more. And when it’s presentable (let’s be honest, it’s never really done!) you will remember fondly all the trials and tribulations. It’s kind of like traveling, the worst trip makes the best story.

We bought a hundred year old house with lovely period details, most of what it needed (a lot) was cosmetic, we did pay for the home inspection (you were very brave/foolhardy) so knew it was mostly quite sound. But there are still surprises. Some, not good.

We’ve been here 6 years now and it’s coming together rather nicely though it’s still far from done.

Our best surprise to date was removing 40 yr old wall to wall broadloom in the livingroom and entry only to discover magnificent and intricate, inlaid (w cherry) hardwood floors. We had peeled up a corner and knew there was hardwood underneath but nothing as glorious as what we found. We didn’t even have to sand them!

Just remember you have many years to get there, Rome wasn’t built in a day, and there’s a reason it’s called a labour of love!

Good luck to you!