Have you ever meet a racist/bigot in real life?

I sure have: my girlfriend’s brother, father, and grandfather. Nice to my face, racist fucks behind my back.

What a fun little white guilt fest.

I’ve had the opportunity to travel and work with people of a large variety of ethnic and racial backgrounds, and, if anything, the black, brown and yellow folks are more often more overt in their racist and xenophobic attitudes than the often lambasted white racists.

As white folks, (which the vast majority here are) we seem to excuse racism by colored people (AKA “people of color”) , that we would damn in our friends, neighbors and relatives.

Get over it folks, it happens everywhere, and in every group.

This focus on racism, and constant one side preaching directed at only one group (Europeans) is the cause of the new racism: a racism that manifests itself in the form of people who NEVER utter a non-PC word while actively avoiding any contact with people they fear to offend.

There’s a lesson to be learned from the above cited Hell’s Angel who said what he wanted, fearlessly using words like “nigger”, while getting on fine with everyone in his multi-colored workplace.

Most of you seem to be college students. Do the PC students at your school really get along well as that H-A brother? Probably not…

Black people excel at short races because of their gentic makeup… not because they are lazy, lol.

Black people have a higher count of “fast twich” muscles in key areas of their bodies like the quads and hamstrings which makes them faster runners over short distances.

I have a semi-friend who is brilliant. She runs circles around anyone I’ve ever met linguistically, and is extremely calculating and logical. She was accepted at all of the schools she applied to (many Ivies among them), high IQ, almost perfect SATs, and is a 4.0 med student.

That said, she’s a fucking snobbish racist.

She and a sub-culture of friends have made up “codenames” for Asians, Blacks, Indians, and Hispanics so they can publicly mock them without the fear of getting found out and beaten up. She’s forever complaining about how “lazy, ugly, worthless, and domineering” Asian and foreign girls are, and how men are complete idiots to want to date them. Racist jokes about watermelon, “dotheads”, and migrant workers abound. She’s extremely bitter and insecure.

Also, don’t even get me started on her hate of fat people, goths, punks, and basically anything she is not. Like the man in Krokodil’s post, ‘nigger’ is a staple in her vocabulary.

Nah, you don’t have an agenda at all.

You wouldn’t want to provide an example of hateful prejudice exhibited by a minority person that was not condemned, would you?

Sure. In order to get along with black people, one must say “nigger” a lot. Makes perfect sense.

Cuauhtemoc asked for examples of uncondemned racism by minorities…
Sure… I work for a large corporation. We have the usual assortment of policies with regard to diversity, inclusiveness, etc. Commentary can, and has gotten people fired. One worker was fired for referring to a saleswoman as a “dyke”. One episode, zero warnings, TERMINATED.

At a our most recent safety meeting, one of our African American workers discovered that another worker, who is white, was married to a black woman.

The black worker launched into a lengthy tirade about the other workers wife being a “useless bitch”, “a sell out”, contributing to the “extinction” of the black race, and how she must “not really be black, probably Puerto Rican or Dominican” because no real black woman would lower herself, etc, etc.

The insulted worker filed a complaint to the local manager and was told nothing could be done, that minorities expressing their anger was to be expected and encouraged.

Bullshit!

Ten years ago I dated a black girl in Memphis Tennesee. I met her through my friend Mark’s girlfriend, who was white, while Mark was black. We were a “checkerboard” foursome when we were all out together. While sometimes whites greeted us with snickers and derisive looks, my date would often recieve verbal, rude comments from other blacks, suggesting to me anyway, the existence of a cultural double standard with regard to who feels free to say what about whom.

If Cuauhtemoc is suggesting that minorities are somehow incapable of racism, and that racism is the exclusive property of white Europeans; he is clearly a poor observer of the human condition and human history.

The “Cuahutemoc” handle suggests the poster is an American Hispanic. Perhaps he should peruse some of the “Aztlan” movement web sites available on the web, where anti-semitism and other forms of bigotry are proudly displayed.

I never suggested that “saying nigger alot” would be helpful as a means to “getting along” with black people. I did suggets that a culture of “white guilt” creates a silent discomfort that promotes an insidious segregation, and a subtle racism.

Do what you want, say what you want.

Personally I think this whole racial issue would be resolved much sooner, and much better, if everyone just said what they were really thinking, including bigots of every color; even those that might just happen to be black, brown, yellow, red or beige.

Openness will lead to real communication, not another 20 years of unfounded white guilt and self loathing.

Yep, sure sounds like it to me. I’m not calling you a liar, but I hope you’ll excuse me if I consider this evidence to be of the “anecdotal” variety. When I asked for examples, I was thinking more along the lines of newsworthy people and events we might all be familiar with.

Not that your experience isn’t valid, but it seems like everybody has a story like this, and it’s always apocryphal. I find it very hard to believe that a human resources office told your co-worker that “monorities expressing their anger was expected and encouraged”. It’s just not smart policy, not for any organization.

And if stories like this are commonplace, why aren’t they all over the papers? If anything remotely like that had happened to me, I’d make sure everybody in the world knew what a bigoted asshole the guy was, and how HR ignored my request to discipline him. That’s if I didn’t get fired for beating the shit out of his African-American ass.

And you don’t think ordinary people would condemn this behavior? Speaking for myself, I would have stood by you that day and let it be known that whoever insulted you also insulted me and all right-thinking people everywhere. Solidarity, brother!

I’m white, I’m not Mexican, but I can see why you’d infer that from my username. But I’m not posting this out of “white-guilt”. I don’t feel guilty at all! Maybe there are some double-standards in the way it’s perceived, but by and large, I think good people recognize racism when they see it and rightly condemn it, whether it’s coming from minorities or the majority.

by Rabid Coyote:

I’m confused. The only people who feel should guilty are the racists and bigots being discussed here anecdotally. Do you think this thread is about you?