I imagine he’ll do it specifically for the outrage. It’ll help distract from the other stuff he does.
Remember the last time he was in office? It was a daily shitshow. He did so much crap that it was really hard to keep track of all the crap he did. Trump is the Firehose of Awfulness writ large.
I fully expect that he is going to announce that his “landslide” win in 2024 is proof that the 2020 election was stolen. He’ll pardon the J6ers just as a House Select Committee begins the investigation into the democrats and journalists who stole it from him. He desperately needs the narrative to be that he did beat Biden, since he was deprived of that with this election. And in this fascist timeline with this cast of utterly unscrupulous characters, he may get his delusional vindication, even though it would mean nothing except bragging rights for him. And that is what counts.
I agree
Their criminal records will be expunged but you can’t expunge Google. I suspect being involved hurts them in some instances but probably helps them with others. We have a county commissioner who was at the rally. Apparently they didn’t participate in the attack but posted pictures from the rally. They keep getting reelected.
I think this is the correct answer. Yes, it’s true that Trump is heavily driven by the question “what’s in it for me”, but history suggests that “you get to troll the libs” is usually a perfectly good answer to that question. Freeing the J6 prisoners would troll not only the libs but never-Trumpers like Liz Cheney, who I suspect he hates even more than the libs.
I suspect that at least part of the time this sentiment originates from someone other than Trump, but I’m sure it’s presented to Trump as demonstrating that he’s the big capo, showing everyone who’s in charge, getting retribution on his enemies, etc. No grand plan needed, just figure out whatever seems to stroke his ego that day.
Query- why didnt trump pardon them all on January 19, 2021?
Several reasons, I’d assume:
I’m not sure any were charged by then. If any were then it was very few. The vast majority were arrested months and in some cases years after.
He didn’t pardon them before he left office because 1) there was no one to pardon yet and 2) he was still pouting about losing.
No, it doesn’t. They are still on record as convicted criminals.
Here is the actual Office of the Pardon Attorney:
Does a presidential pardon expunge or erase the conviction for which the pardon was granted?
No. Expungement is a judicial remedy that is rarely granted by the court and cannot be granted within the Department of Justice or by the President. Please also be aware that if you were to be granted a presidential pardon, the pardoned offense would not be removed from your criminal record. Instead, both the federal conviction as well as the pardon would both appear on your record. However, a pardon will facilitate removal of legal disabilities imposed because of the conviction, and should lessen to some extent the stigma arising from the conviction. In addition, a pardon may be helpful in obtaining licenses, bonding, or employment. If you are seeking expungement of a federal offense, please contact the court of conviction. If you are seeking expungement of a state conviction, which the Office of the Pardon Attorney also does not have authority to handle, states have different procedures for “expunging” a conviction or “clearing” the record of a criminal conviction. To pursue relief of a state conviction, you should contact the Governor or state Attorney General in the state in which you were convicted for assistance.
That’s what I thought. So still convicted criminals. If anyone does background checks, may be hard to get a job. I sure as shit wouldn’t hire anyone stupid enough to participate in J6.
Let them rot under bridges.
In their home territory it’s a badge of honor. Trump could sell official “Jan6 - I got pardoned” badges.
In one of his recent Truth Social posts, he referred to those convicted for J6 crimes as “Hostages”. It’s a safe bet that pardons are coming.
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Jimmy Carter pardoned nearly everyone who evaded the Vietnam draft the day after he was inaugurated , whether they were charged or not. It was a blanket pardon No reason Trump couldn’t have issued a similar blanket pardon - but he didn’t. No doubt because he didn’t believe it would benefit him and it’s hard to see how that has changed where it would benefit him now but wouldn’t have then.
Think of it the other way around: pardoning them in 2021 could have hurt his chances of winning in 2024; in 2025, uh, less so.
Even if he didn’t do it in 2021 because he thought it would hurt him in 2024, there’s no way for it to actually help him now - and I’m not at all sure “wouldn’t hurt him” is enough reason for him to lift a finger ( or that he doesn’t actually believe he can somehow get a third term) .
I think there is; I think it could let him showily demonstrate — in the headline-grabbing-est possible way — that, as long as they sing his praises, he’s the kind of guy who’ll hand out pardons to people who beg him to do so after they do stuff they think would please him.
Something that had been stewing for several years at that point. Not a couple of weeks. Trump at the time was pretending nothing bad had happened. He was being impeached with a chance of being barred from future office. If he issued a blanket pardon he would be admitting that there were crimes.
Trump’s motivations are so clear to me that I find it weird others don’t see it. Thinking he is only motivated by what benefits him gives him too much credit. It’s all about ego and adulation. He’s still calling them January 6th hostages. I will be shocked if he waits until January 21st. It’s probably written and waiting for him right now.
In particular, it shows he will protect people who will attack the seat of a coequal branch of the government on his behalf.
If that’s not a recipe for tyranny, I don’t know what is.
I agree. No chance that he will not pardon…not one in hundred. And it may very well be a blanket pardon for all j6ers.