I think the fact that Heche is barking-mad is a more dominant factor than any orientation she may have. The first major flag that went off that “that girl ain’t right” with me was when she and Ellen were at the “Million Queer March” on D.C. and she addressed a crowd with a comment to the effect of “I was straight for almost 30 years and never accepted, but I’ve been gay for only 3 years and now I feel like I’m part of something…”
I was watching it with my then significant other and we’re both going “Why the hell are people cheering that statement? If Trent Lott or Jesse Helms had just said that people choose they’re orientations you’d be pelting them with Birkenstocks and garbage.” Then a year later she’s off in the desert trying to hitch a ride to Ipsilon-Theta IV and talking in a language only spoken by Norwegian marsupials and I was thinking “mmm-hmmm”.
Did you even READ those articles? It says they were roommates.
He even says he found the gay hobbit jokes amusing because he’s “comfortable enough with his sexuality” to know it doesn’t matter. And it mentioned that he “doesn’t like girls who smoke.” If he were gay, don’t you think it would say “guys who smoke?”
:rolleyes:
Yeah, he has a GAY roommate. So WHAT? Maybe, they’re, I dunno-friends?
Doogie Howser…hehehe…I used to watch that. Wouldn’t surprise me.
BTW, Gandalf the Gay would make a good screenname for a gay LOTR fan.
Maybe he doesn’t feel like spending all of his money on housing. My cousin is a social worker, not a wealthy actress. I’ve never been to her apartment, but I assume it’s a fairly ordinary place. I doubt he was spending crazy amounts of money to live in this place.
Look, my cousin never said Dominic Monaghan was NOT living with someone, and it didn’t occur to me to ask at the time. However, I think she would have mentioned it in the course of our conversation if he had a roommate. If anyone really wants to know, I’ll email her and ask, but honestly, I’d feel pretty dumb writing “Hi, how are you? I got into an argument online over whether or not Dominic Monaghan is Sean Astin’s brother’s boyfriend. I’m depending on you to tell us the truth.” And yes, I think my cousin is a pretty reliable source. Obviously, you’ll have to take my word, but she’s smart and, well, Dominic Monaghan’s next door neighbor.
I should add that I’m not at all sure how long either one of them have been living in this place, though. I got the feeling that he had just recently moved in when I saw her in January, mostly because I hadn’t heard it from anyone else, and in my family, gossip travels fast.
Re: the Niles Crane thing – I seem to recall that Frasier lampooned the whole effeminacy/homosexual thing in an episode guest starring Patrick Steward as a lovey type. Niles introduces Daphne and mentions that they’re, shall we say, unexpectedly expecting:
Niles: Surprise!
PS: I was.
Speaking of Patrick Stewart… <ahem>… are the rumors true? Or is that just fallout from Jeffrey?
In other news, my gaydar isn’t infallible but I’ve seen Barry Manilow in concert (stop sniggering - the wife is a fan from way back) and that man is gayer than a circus clown on E. Furthermore, he was clearly having a thing with his one (!) male backup singer, if the secretive smouldering looks across the stage are anything to go by.
And finally, I was outed on the NADS board, much to my own surprise and amusement. Apparently having a catty sense of humor and a knowledge of women’s fashion and cookery can give a bloke a certain reputation. Heh.
Two things- no male athlete playing a professional team sport has come out while still an active player because it would kill his career. Period. It might be couched as “a troublemaker in the clubhouse” or “a nagging injury” or something like that, but his career would be finished.
Second, LoopyDude you have got to chill! I saw the “Gandalf the Gay” joke as a direct play on “Gandalf the GRAY” from a mile away. You really should relax.
Not true. Lassie was a drag queen, but that doesn’t necessarily make him gay.
Lassie was played by several dogs, but they were all male, thus a “lad”, not a “lass” at all. And at least a couple of them sired litters of puppies (though that doesn’t necessarily make them straight).
In his novel 2061: Odyssey Three, chapter 40, Arthur C. Clarke has a publisher pan a new novel called Shaka, which features brutal, homosexual, misogynistic warriors:
“And what a ghastly advertisement for us feys! Almost enough to make one want to switch. We’ve always claimed that we’re gentle and kindhearted (as well as madly talented and artistic, of course) but now you’ve made us look into some of the so-called Great Warriors (as if there was anything great about killing people!) we’re almost ashamed of the company we’ve been keeping …”
When I read this paragraph, my impression was that not only was Clarke not gay, he hardly knew anything about gay people. This novel was written in 1987 but that paragraph reads like a stereotype copy-sheet from the 1960s.
I seem to remember reading recently - possibly in the Guardian - that there was a growing Kevin Spacey “straight” rumour. It seems everyone had assumed he was gay from the get-go, and then suddenly he’d shown up at some event with a lady in tow and the media had been thrown into confusion.
Mind you, it’s not as good as when Dale Winton (deeply camp general-purpose television host) decided to come out. It’s possible that a couple of pigeons in Llandudno were a little surprised, but everyone else had him filed as gay the minute he first swanned onto the set of Supermarket Sweep.
Then there’s the strange case of Tom Hulce (Amadeus, Parenthood) who was openly gay in the 80s and 90s (this is confirmed in several places including interviews with him) but in 1996 married and now has a child. He’s very private (he only works in movies to finance his experimental stage products [most notably a 6 hour stage adaptation of Cider House Rules) and I haven’t read any commentary on his marriage. Maybe he just wanted to be a father.
B. D. Wong (the priest on Oz and psychiatrist on Law & Order) wrote a very touching book entitled Following Foo about the premature birth of the twins borne to him and his partner by a surrogate mother. (One died and the other was very touch-and-go for several months but recovered.) I like the way he addresses his sexuality, which is essentially “I’m gay and have a partner- this is the story of my child”- rather no nonsense, no dwelling on it, etc., since the story is more about parenthood than orientation.
I really like David Hyde Pierce’s comment on his private life: My life is an open book, but I don’t feel inclined to read it aloud.
OTOH, he’s from an era where sexuality was expressed differently and for the last 50 years he’s lived in Sri Lanka and has been out of the loop on the gay movement. He pointedly ignores questions about his sexuality when asked in interviews, and while he’s nearing 90 and never married he also lives alone and always has, so no real grounds for diagnosis either way. (Some years ago there were allegations of pedophilia because he was photographed swimming naked with Sri Lankan children, but the larger photo revealed that there were several naked adults in the water also; like many if not most Asian cultures, nudity just ain’t no thang in his part of the world.)
Correction to the above: Clarke was married once for a few months in 1953.
Somebody mentioned Raymond Burr earlier in the thread: what was sick to me about him is that in addition to including the one marriage he did have that ended in divorce, his official biography (at the time of Perry Mason and Ironsides) included two entirely fictional marriages, one ending in divorce and the other in the spouse’s death, and (this is the sick part, if only to me) a young son who died and whose death made him never want to remarry. On the A&E and other biographies of him, his longtime lover is the main interviewee; hopefully the lover got enough money from the good years to live comfortably since Burr died penniless due to extravagant overspending (a Rembrandt here, a 3,000 acre island there, extra cheese here, it all ads up).
I thought that Rosie supposedly only officially “came out” when she wanted out of her show? Before, she was willing to keep it quiet as long as it didn’t hurt her?
And then she wanted out of her contract, so she decided to “come out?”
Not that I’m condemning her for being gay. I guess she just rubs me the wrong way. (The whole screaming at Tom Selleck about guns while she was shilling for KrapMart; saying that celebrities should get special treatment on the Martha Stewart thing-not because Martha had or hadn’t done anything wrong, but because it’s “different for celebrities.” )
I could be wrong, though. She just always struck me as an opportunist.
My cousin lived next door to Huckleberry Hound and swears that he was having an affair with Lady (of “& the Tramp” fame), so I discount the gay rumors.
(I’m reminded of the punchline to the schoolyard joke about Mickey & Minnie Mouse’s divorce-
in Mickey’s falsetto: Your honor I didn’t say I want a divorce because my wife’s really weird, I said I want a divorce because she’s fuckin’ Goofy.)