Religion of pieces.
Your snarkiness aside, it is a “religion of peace” for the practitioners of it who aren’t assholes.
Just like how Christianity is a religion of peace and tolerance to those of its adherents who are predisposed to be peaceful and tolerant, but to the assholes it’s about oppressing gays and blowing up abortion clinics.
If you’re going to judge any group of over a billion people by the ones whose assholishness rises to newsworthy levels, you’re going to have a pretty negative impression of that group.
Quite. Don’t judge all Muslims by the arseholes who misappropriate the religion.
Things here in Pune are fortunately very quiet (though being ensconced on a university campus with armed security everywhere probably helps)…
Eyewitness interviewed on Sky News reporting one of the terrorists captured is claiming they are all from Pakistan.
Right. Because when they pray for people who they consider to be sinning that’s exactly like shooting them and blowing them up. There aren’t enough :rolleyes:s.
I suggest you re-read what I wrote. Try using both eyes this time.
I compared blowing up abortion clinics to terrorism, because guess what, it is.
I also mentioned “oppressing gays”. No, it’s not equivalent to killing people, and I never said it was. I listed it as an example of people using their religion as an excuse to be assholes, and I stand by that.
I didn’t mention prayer anywhere in my post, and I don’t know where you got that. Did you just skim over everything but the words “Christianity” and “gays”?
I was supposed to drive to Pune this morning to visit my folks. Glad everything is ok there.
Schools and colleges are shut in Bombay today. Most offices are shut, though outside of the areas under siege, things seem to be quite normal. Buses and trains are running and airports are functioning, though some international airlines have cancelled flights.
Update: The situation at the Taj Mahal hotel seems to be coming under control, though there is no official confirmation. At the Hilton, it’s still bad - latest reports speak of several hundred hostages 
The military has been brought in - army and navy forces have joined the police commandos.
Well it would help if they weren’t in the news quite so often. It doesn’t matter what country it is, if you see “terrorist group” in the headlines it’s usually one of Mohammed’s followers. Compare that to over 2 billion Christians and almost a billion Hindu’s who don’t go apoplectic over something as innocuous as a cartoon.
This wasn’t some random nutjob making the news, this was a well organized terrorist attack that was driven by the religion of peace.
The terrorists are still a tiny percentage of that billion people. “A significant fraction of terrorists are Muslim” does not imply “a significant fraction of Muslims are terrorists.”
And what percentage of Christians and Hindus are terrorists?
You know the sort that go around crashing planes into buildings, suicide attacks…stuff like that.
I’ll agree that not all Muslims are nutjobs but more than enough are
You know something like a million people were killed in Rwanda by Christians.
Has Al Quaeda killed a million people?
Obviously Christianity isn’t a religion of peace either.
:rolleyes:
This is only because when Christians do it it’s never called terrorism, especially if it’s done in the name of Christianity. No double standard there.
No offense, but I see this as a bit of a failure of logic. "Sure, most Muslim’s aren’t terrorists, but some are, so I’ll go ahead and paint them with that broad brush anyway . . . "
Consider an analogy:
I’d wager the vast majority of rapists are men (and certainly the vast majority of rapes you hear about on the news are perpetrated by men), but that surely doesn’t mean the majority of men are rapists. If I suggested that males in general are predisposed to commit rape, I certainly hope people would object. And yet people have no problem suggesting Islam in general is a pro-terrorism faith based on the actions of a minority of its adherents.
For what it’s worth, there have been Christian terrorists. Look at the recent history of Northern Ireland, for one. The fact that there are more terrorists these days originating from the Muslim world is no doubt due to a whole host of sociological factors. It’s not as simple as “Christianity good, Islam bad.” It’s the exact same Christian Bible which, in different historical contexts, was used as a justification for the Inquisition, wars of aggression, execution of “witches”, etc. It’s not the Scripture that has changed, it’s the sociological environment of those who believe in it.
Come on, it’s probably been ages since an Archbishop of Canterbury was murdered. Gotta be at least … ooo, well, it’s been a while.
Good times, good times.
terrorism is mostly inspired by religous beliefs; therefore all religious people are terrorists.
(and to anyone who believes this, or anything close to this, fuck you. btw, i’m an atheist who believes in human rights, fundemental fairness, and equality for all)
I am skeptical of this. In Rwanda they killed for reasons other than religion. Islamic terror is inspired by religion and is universal everywhere that Islam exists. In Rwanda when a shift in power from one tribe to another occurred the newly minted power tribe sought retribution against the tribe that the Belgians had installed as the overclass. It wasn’t rooted in religion as far as I am aware. Do you have evidence that it was rooted in religion?
douchebags who attempt to influence governments or populations with this sort of action deserve torture, in it’s most severe form, simply because there is no afterlife in which they can suffer.
I will let that screed go, because I get her anger. And the edit window has passed. Mostly though, her anger, and the fact she can kick my ass soundly.
But I really do not, ever, condone violence. Ever.
Even if, which I never have maintained it has been, earned.
I do concede that sometimes it may be inevitable…
I’m confused, Hap. Are you two people?
Precisely. Not to hijack my own thread but Islam is not a religion of peace at the moment regardless of what the mumbo-jumbo says. In this case the mumbo-jumbo includes the Sword Verses, held by the ‘harder’ versions of Islam, as propagated by our good friends the Saudi’s, to supercede all the ‘play nice until we have the upper hand’ stuff.
From Europe to Indonesia via India there is terrorism conducted in the name of Islam and as survey after survey shows significant minorities in the double digit % express support for terrorist acts.
It is no more a religion of peace than christianity has been until very recently with the various crusades and genocides from South America to entire european regions of ‘heretics’.