Hebrews: Good or Evil?

Well, at least the Neo-Nazis left 42 alone. For now. :stuck_out_tongue:

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I need to go watch the Evil Hebrew play some GTA4 downstairs. He’s been trying to wean himself off the real raping and pillaging of innocent cultures in the name of G-d ever since he hooked up with me (I just don’t agree with that sort of behaviour in a committed relationship, after all), but he finds that video game simulations really helps to ease the withdrawal symptoms.

Reminder him that it’s pillage first, then burn. Otherwise it doesn’t go as well.

Ah, well. Shver zu zein a Yid.

[QUOTE=Marley23]
Becky01, personal insults are NOT allowed in Great Debates, period. Do not do that again. Your last post also carried an especially strong tinge of anti-Semitism - which was noticeable elsewhere, I might add, including your thread title and the post before this one. If you actually do want to post here after all, you’ll cut that shit out instantly.

Meanwhile, this thread is going around in circles, and not particularly good circles. Maybe it’ll do better in the Pit.[/QUOTE

I meant it to carry anti-zionism and you can do whatever you choose. I requested my thread be removed this afternoon as I want no part of a one-sided horse and pony show. I don’t care for your shit either!

Aw, you’re so cute when you’re frothing! Such a pity that you left. Already. Several of your own posts back.

“Go eat a bagel?” means you oppose Zionism? I had no idea. Assuming you’re telling the truth, you’ve failed to make it clear. Would you like to start again and actually explain yourself? Your comments about the original column appeared to have nothing at all to do with Zionism, which I assume you’re defining as support for the state of Israel.

Generally we don’t do that here, and definitely not on request. Threads aren’t removed unless they’re spamming or trolling, basically. You can ask that this thread be locked if you like, and we’ll consider it.

I’m seeing two sides here, you’re just not gaining any support. Perhaps that’s because you keep saying one thing and then insisting you meant something else. Similarly it wouldn’t be a horse and pony show if - assuming you are really making a point here - you would make your point clearly, stand behind it and listen to people.

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[QUOTE=Marley23]
Becky01, personal insults are NOT allowed in Great Debates, period. Do not do that again. Your last post also carried an especially strong tinge of anti-Semitism - which was noticeable elsewhere, I might add, including your thread title and the post before this one. If you actually do want to post here after all, you’ll cut that shit out instantly.

Meanwhile, this thread is going around in circles, and not particularly good circles. Maybe it’ll do better in the Pit.
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I meant it to carry anti-zionism and you can do whatever you choose. I requested my thread be removed this afternoon as I want no part of a one-sided horse and pony show. I don’t care for your shit either![/QUOTE]

Oh Jesus Christ (no pun).

I see your

and raise you

So what’s your story?

I’m guessing it involves billy goats.

:cool:

Anybody seen my lawn chair? I made tea.

Minor correction -

“Shever” - “Break”, as in broken bone.
“Shen” - Tooth.
“Tahat” - “Under”, but in this case it does mean “instead of.” Also, colloquially, “backside” or “ass”.

Your analysis is interesting, BTW. I’ve never heard it before, but it makes sense.

As for the OP - I was kind of expecting something like this today or tomorrow, but if this is the best we’re going to get, I’m not going to lose much sleep over it.

Weird. I always thought it was from these. But then I guess that makes only marginally more sense and is probably even more opaque to non-geeks.

Heh.

Becky, do you have any Jew in you?

Do you want any?

100% certified Kosher sausage and 2 matzo balls, right here. Once you’re had by a Jewish man, you’ll never be satisfied by any other kind of lover again.

PM me.

No, that’s cool. You were just reacting to the racist insults and that’s clear now. I’m just glad that such things could, theoretically, be discussed civilly and remain within board policy. I realize the Board isn’t obligated to maintain freedom of speech, but it’s a nice touch to keep the little bits that we can.

At least she doesn’t have to start working out :wink:

Except it’s always something else, such as the number on their high school football jersey, or something. Funny, really, how people can have such bold, outspoken views about some things, then have to cover up other things with really lame explanations.

It’s the same dynamic, I’d argue, that causes folks like David Duke to write books on “Jewish supremicism” while denying that he’s a racist. Or that causes folks to talk about “Zionist media control” and then go on to play ‘find the Jew’ in the country’s news/entertainment industries.

Edit: Or to start a thread talking about whether or not “Hebrews” are evil when they really mean modern Jews, but really, for serious, it’s all about anti-Zionism. Those damn bagel eating Zionists.

Yeah. I mean, seriously: you know how hard it is to find a decent bagel here in Zion?

Ummm. According to the Old Testament, God killed most of humanity. And cursed all of humanity with suffering for the crime of disobedience. And so on. The Greeks and Romans were nowhere near as bad; they didn’t have the power or the inclination.

Even if you restrict judgement to the actions attributed to humans, behavior like killing everything but the virgin girls and taking them as sex slaves is something that the Romans or Greeks would have cheerfully done. If the Greeks/Romans were worse, it wasn’t by any huge margin. No doubt they did more damage, but they were also much more powerful.

I doubt that. Oh, I’m sure that there would still be religion, but as we see all over the world, there’s all sorts of religions that don’t resemble Judaism or Christianity very much. For example, without Judaism and it’s offspring religions, the dominant religions might have been polytheistic, and therefore probably less inclined to think that everyone else is worshipping a false god or demon. Or, the religions that became dominant could have been less aggressively evangelical, less prone to believe that if you don’t worship the one true god the one right way you’ll suffer forever; and therefore, have been less aggressive and ruthless.

The Abrahamic religions are exceptionally nasty as religions go. Not the very worst, but up there. Their underlying worldview makes them so. That’s why people who take them seriously tend to inflict suffering, tyranny and death ( they themselves may be either evil, stupid, crazy, or a mix ). And why in more civilized countries, trying to follow the OT too closely will get you tossed in prison.

That being said, in ancient times, pretty much everyone was, by comparison to modern people, evil. It’s called progress. The problem it, the OT is a survival from a more barbaric time that far too many people think should be a guide to modern behavior. People don’t typically dig up multi-millennia old secular laws are try to claim that they should be resurrected.

As for the OP’s apparent anti-Semitism, I’d recommend that she find some more modern and interesting bigotry. Something in keeping with the nerdesque nature of this board, like a rant about how aliens are evil and should be killed, or a claim for the moral righteousness of enslaving robots. Much more fun to argue about than yet another claim about the Jewish conspiracy to rule the world or whatever.