Muslims may want to kill you but Catholic priests want to fuck your children.
The feckers want to kill me as well, right? I’m white, western, an atheist, think gays should be allowed do anything they want to each other and believe women should be as free to express themselves in any way they see fit. I don’t want to be left out. The chances of a white christian blowing me up has gone down considerably over the last decade or so so I need some new fear to keep me going.
You see how the Jews always get preferential treatment? It’s just typical…
Thanks for the explanation.
Then you agree that it would be wise, as a whole, to consider Muslims much less worthy of a wary reaction than your average American?
I’m not sure what you think the answer would be, but what if you asked. “What group wants to kill homosexuals and subjugate women, to the point of stoning them to death for actions that males in her family are offended by?”
Nicely done.
Let’s crunch some numbers. How many Americans have Muslims killed? Now, how many Muslims have Americans killed? So which group is more dangerous?
Overgeneralizations are fun, no?
Nice tailoring of the question, but frankly if you left off the last bit you still might not get “Muslim” as the top answer.
In America, Islam is not really a concern to me. Those coming here, or raised here, are probably more progressive than the average citizen. That doesn’t mean that there isn’t a very large, well funded, anti-western, anti-American group of Islamic thugs determined to kill Americans when they can.
Oh quit yer bitching. Guess what? They want to kill me too. And I’m a liberal Muslim woman. Fundamentalists of any stripe think that they’re the only ones who are right, everyone else is wrong and their enemies must be destroyed somehow. Funny, I’m seeing it here too.
That’s just stupid and utterly unfair. You are doing the exact thing you accuse others of doing.
So, how do we do that without putting the Constitution (and common decency) through a shredder? Are you suggesting that we treat Muslims differently than we do any other religion? Frankly, just in general walking-around terms, I’m more afraid of Southern Baptists than I am of Muslims. I’m much more likely to encounter a majority-Southern-Baptist population who wants to drag me behind their pickup truck than I am to encounter a majority-Muslim population who wants to hang me.
Ah, spreading the sub-bass message of Allah, how nefarious!
How is it unfair? Valteron is NOT making distinctions. In fact, he’s trying to twist words and meanings of things the imam in the MODERATE Muslim congregation in question has said to make it look like he’s some kind of Mullah Omar. Valteron and Perciful DO NOT MAKE DISTINCTIONS between Muslim sects in their screeds. ALL Muslims are suspect to them. And if a particular Muslim hasn’t actually said something like “Death to Israel!” or “Die, American Satans!” then Valteron will try to make it look like they did.
Am I? How so?
Absolutely not. I see no reason to fear the average American. But if you define a subset, like Americans who do Meth, or routinely drink and drive, then I can begin to be more fearful of that group. But I’m more fearful of those in a group of which that group is associated with violence, like skin heads, for instance. I’d also be more fearful of going to a 50-Cent concert than a Pat Boone concert, even though the latter is likely to be more painful.
No, not all of them. A large number of them just want to be left the hell alone to get on with life. Just like us. The ones I knew back in college we just like us, but had funny accents and tended to eat with their right hand an no utensils on stuff like chicken and rice =)
Muezzins sure have changed since I was young.
And some of us even look (apart from our skin colour) like you, dress like you, eat (almost) the same things you do, don’t have too funny accents, are educated, and really do just want peace and harmony between different cultures. Heck, most people don’t know I’m Muslim until I tell them.
You’ve not seen the Call to Prayer Alarm Clock my grandfather had… Electronic Muezzins ahoy!
The point, friend, is that some white men DO want to kill us. (And you’d be closer to the front of that line than I.) In fact, of the group of people who can be defined as “wanting to kill Americans”, white men make up a vast majority.Further refine that group as “those who want to kill us, have killed some of us, and continue to actively try to kill some of us”, it’s pretty much all white men. Now, that does not mean that all white men want to kill Americans, but until you have a fool-proof way cull the evil-trying-to-kill-us ones from the peaceful ones, it behooves us—or those of us who would like to not be killed or have those we cared for killed—to be wary of the whole lot.
Got it now, friend?
Psssssst: your racist is showing, you disgusting sack of shit.
Hold on a moment. I thought that we couldn’t define a subset - there’s no foolproof way to know one from another, right?