Work in the fact that Donald loves to say “I don’t know…you tell me” by saying “I do know. And I’m telling you” followed by some irrefutable anti-bullshit.
Yeah, I really don’t think zingers are the way to go. Trump has her beat up and down on content-free insults. She has him beat up and down on knowing what the hell she’s talking about. She’s got to avoid sexist traps, unfortunately, but if she can maintain a calm, serious-but-upbeat demeanor while steering conversations back toward policy specifics, maybe offering very gentle corrections of his misstatements, I think she’ll come out on top.
Her people have had her turn down the shrill (well what others called shrill I thought it was closer to Loud Robot) and speak clearly and calmly. That is what I think is her key to winning. If she engages in a roast with Trump he wins. Even though his insults are not clever or original he knows how to drown people out with it. No matter how well moderated the debate is Trump is going to break the rules and respond to any zinger immediately. He won’t have a response to actual ideas.
I agree but slightly differently. Hillary should just fly right and deliver a debate. Trump cannot and therefore will not do any such thing. But if Hillary stoops she won’t get anywhere, she only loses the “proper debate” dignity. Trump will most likely flail away in a Gish Gallop, and will be admired by his fans as “telling it like it is” and scorning that bogus liberal “reasoned debate” stuff.
So, maybe he will show up after all? I was thinking he might not want to lose a debate, but, on the other hand, who’s going to make him debate?
I hope Hillary wins, but honestly, I’ve lost so much confidence in her it’s beginning to scare me.
therefore…
I’d suggest Hillary learns to moonwalk to Michael Jackson’s “Billy Jean,” and does so at the beginning of the debate. If she finally portrays enough energy she might pull off the win. Otherwise, I’m afraid she’s going to put the audience to sleep.
That said, I really want to be wrong.
or maybe do the rap part of Blondie’s “Rapture.”
*Fab Five Freddie told me everybody’s high
DJ’s spinnin’ Trump stupid grinnin’
Flash is fast, Hillary is cool
Francois sez fas, Flashe’ no do
And you don’t stop, sure shot
Go out to the parking lot
And you get in your car and you drive real far
And you drive all night and then you see a light
And it comes down, kidnaps the clown…
*
Rap might work for her. Just might.
Genius!! I like that one. And great username/post combo to boot.
Now, my opponent’s proposed tax reform will benefit millionaires like him, but it won’t help THE… AMERICAN… PEOPLE!!!
*Well, Hillary, I’m worth a lot more than a million bucks.
*
I don’t know. People are saying it. I just don’t know. But I think millionaire is accurate. I heard someone say it this morning.
I like the way your mind twists. Might be a bit too subtle, dropping it in like that, a gumball into a quiche. May take him too long to catch on. He is pretty alert to slights, so, worth a shot!
You are not a nice person.
Ah, but I thought of that.
Normally one would think so-- too subtle for Bird Brain. On most subjects, yes. On this one, however, I think DT has a finely tuned ear and most of the few brain cells that he has focused on just such things. And to emphasize, Hillary looks over at him right after saying “millionaire” and pauses for just a second.
“Donald, have you identified which Army generals have been reduced to rubble and *which *can tell you what to do about ISIS?”
“Secretary Clinton, your rebuttal?”
“You know what? Fuck you, Donald.”
(Cedes remainder of time to the standing ovation and raucous cheers)
“Donald, are you going to rebuild America the way you rebuilt Atlantic City?”
You guys might find it comforting to think some clever line is gonna devastate The Donald and help Hillary, but Trump is absolutely going to wipe the floor with her. He’s gonna bring up lie after lie after lie. He’s gonna bring up Bill’s endless stream of girlfriends and assault victims and Hillary’s participation in or going along with the portrayal of them as bimbos, and then lambaste her for having the audacity to call herself the woman’s candidate. He’s gonna bring up her health and long history of blood clots and fainting and concussions and special eyeglasses and how much she’s aged just since she ran against Obama eight years ago. He’ll probably also bring up allegations of her saying some form of “Fuck you or Fuck off” to her protectors in the Secret Service and Arkansas Highway Patrol and heighten her image as an ill-tempered, unlikeable bitch on wheels. Plus lots of other stuff I have no idea of.
Hillary Clinton very likely has nightmares about these debates. And she should.
You’re always underselling Trump, and I don’t get it. She’s going to faint because of his mind control powers, and if she manages to resist that, his incredible handsomeness and charm will cause her to swoon.
I don’t know why you keep pretending Trump is like a mere human mortal or something, but you really should stop. He’s a God among men, and Hillary’s puny intellect will be totally unable to match his majesty. All hail his incredible amazing classy powers, which are far greater than your minor-league praise.
Everyone bookmark this post, so Starving Artist can be shown his mistake in underestimating Trump’s superhuman abilities.
It’s not that Trump’s so special, it’s just that Hillary Clinton provides such rich ground for insult and criticism and Trump, unlike virtually any other politico, will have no absolutely no compunction about freely and openly calling her out on them.
“Well, the gals down at the pool hall tell a very different story. You know, the one about Little Hans?”
Now you’re pumping up Hillary. I don’t get it – she’s reptilian and literally has never told the truth to anyone ever. Every word, and I mean this absolutely literally, is a lie, unlike the 100% truthful Trump. By speaking about her as if she’s a human person you’re going way beyond the pale of reasonableness… she’s a demon from Hell who embodies dishonesty and evil, and she eats babies.
“Donald, If you’re President you’ll HAVE TO build that wall … to keep Americans from escaping to Mexico.”
Iiandyiiii, you’re making me pee myself with enjoyment.
I want to elaborate on those two riffs, but it would only be gilding the lily.
Incidentally, that’s the other half of my approach.
Like I’d said, figure she notes, in a straightforward and conciliatory fashion, that he’ll of course be able to call on her for advice whenever he wants, as often as he wants, for the good of the nation – and if he interrupts with an insulting zinger, great.
And I figure she then looks into the camera and asks whether he’d be available to give her advice, for the good of the nation – and turns to him, to earnestly ask whether he’ll be available to consult with her, at need, as an expert – and if, with a quip wrapped in a put-down, he refuses to help save American lives, that’s ideal.
But why would I suggest that? Wouldn’t it just fizzle out if she hands him that chance to look statesmanlike and he – obligingly says that, sure, he’s just a phone call away if she needs him to patiently explain stuff to her for the good of the country?
Because if he does, figure she says, hey, that’s great – because I hear you know how to smash ISIS, but you’ve been keeping that plan a secret instead of mentioning it to the commander-in-chief; but it sounds like, when I’m president, you’ll actually serve your country! Looking forward to it, lemme tellya!
Relax. I’ve bookmarked plenty of Trumpy Wumpy support from certain posters this year. Pit thread will be posted November 3rd. 