Luckily, it’s not all about you.
I quoted you in my reply, but there are other people in the world. In this thread, even!
This is, perhaps, the most ignorant and offensive post of all time.
It’s more realistic. Placing such importance on a bar over everything else shows how humans can rationalize just about anything.
The comment was directed at me though.
If you think the “bar” is the point of the story, you’re really not comprehending Panache45.
So you are totally “okay” with hiding both of those aspects of your self, with never being your true self?
This thread is turning into a bit of a train wreck, but I’ll point out something that I don’t think has been mentioned: you’re always coming out. And this gets exhausting. Every person you meet, you always have to think about your pronouns. No straight person would ever hesitate about saying, ‘My wife and I went to dinner at the new Italian restaurant down the street.’ in casual workplace chat. A gay person does have to think about that type of a statement and do they want to say boyfriend, husband, partner, or be vague.
I don’t hide anything any longer, but I don’t know what I’d do outside my bubble. But, it took me a long time to get to this point in my life. So, yes, I’m proud.
You learn quickly in psychology and sociology that there is no basis for a “true self”.
That’s kind of a low bar. I remember when it came to me it was easy to side around such words or conversations. It’s hard for you because you are attaching to some kind of identity that you don’t want to let go. I mean you see plenty of Buddhists doing fine and more than a few monks. You’re not always coming out, you just don’t want to let go of that story.
Sounds to me like the part that some in the thread aren’t really getting is that Pride celebrations aren’t so much just pride in being gay as an absolute thing, but rather pride in being gay and out, but the “and out” is more or less assumed/unspoken?
Surely that timidity is exactly what Gay Pride is an antidote to.
It sounds like if you were more at ease with your gayness, we might have fewer troubled threads about alienation from you.
Ah, so luckily for you, you don’t have to hide anything then! No true self, no uncomfortable masks to wear, no lies -by omission or otherwise- you need to tell
Now we’re getting somewhere.
And how do you feel about that?..
YOu haven’t read a word I wrote did you?
Something I didn’t ask for that affects my life that compels me to do things I don’t like or want to do. It’s a sickness (well that’s not right, more like a condition) that you learn to manage.
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Did you just say homosexuality is a sickness -no wait, more of a condition?
You miss my point, the point I’m getting at is that gay pride is rooted in this false construct of a “true self” that they have to be. Much of Eastern philosophy argues that point, and sociology and psychology seem to be arriving there as well. If you want to put a point to it they are fighting over nothing and for nothing.
It’s just a body, there is no “one” inside.
In my case yes.
Literally nothing that you’ve ever posted on this board gives me the impression that you’re “doing ok.”
Those topics are unrelated to my being gay or on the spectrum (well maybe the result of the traits that being on the spectrum gets you). As for the being gay, it’s manageable. I mean wondering on the true nature of reality and what you “really are” affects my life far more than who I’m sexually into (and if I’m honest are far worth discovering than something this trivial).