I’m an open minded individual, and normally I’m not the type of person to censor anyone, but if it is for a family section and the site itself does say it can contain Adult material… well, a polite “thanks, but no thanks” is in order.
I’m not really in the mood for a huge ethical discussion, but those are my views…
Look at it this way, if Ted found the paper, and he punched up this sight…get the idea?
A family oriented publication, IMO, should not contain adult( as in for ages 19+ only eyes). You must have another place you can put their ad…maybe on the Wildcat’s page??
Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental.
My answer would be no. I’m assuming you mean the “tv guide” type insert in a Sunday paper. This type of ad really has no place there, IMO. And, as mentioned above, I hold no judgements against this kind of site or the lifestyle it promotes, I just don’t think that that would be an appropriate place for it. I don’t know how old your son is kelli, I have 2 boys 13 & 9, both read right through a Sunday paper, particularly the inserts, and both have internet access, (supervised, of course). While there may not be any pictures or language particularly offensive on the site, I would not feel comfortable having one of my son’s come across the address, type it in and ask questions as to its meaning. One more bit of feedback for ya.
I like it here-can I stay?
And do you have a vacancy for a Back-scrubber?
Personally I wouldn’t. If it were a general web site with an adults-only section, that would be one thing, but it’s totally adult-oriented. If it runs anywhere, it should be in the same section as the adult bookstores and movie houses. And if you won’t run ads for them, you shouldn’t run an ad for this.
I understand all the words, they just don’t make sense together like that.
The Tv book comes out on fridays, contains no funnies or anything (those are saturday) and by family paper I maen we try to keep it reasonably clean.
The section is “What to do” a collection of social stuff really, restauranst mostly, a bar, a taxi company, and last summer, we did have a strip bar in this section, its the ads that have to be ‘clean and innoffensive’ not so much the business themselves. For example the strip club had a logo and a phone #, no mention of the dancing or a pic of a girl or anything.
We run the odd ad for an adult store, but the ad is not explicit or is it allowed to contain anything smutty. It refers to adult toys and vidoes etc, but doesnt mention they have a special on " Cum Sluts" or anything like that.
Its a very gray area for me. I originally refused to run it due to fairly graphis stuff in the FAQ section, but they totally cleaned it up. Now you cant get much without being a member.
Any suggestions for them to keep the site innofensive? They are very very reasonable and want the exposure. They are pretty much willing to do whatever I suggest.
I am still torn. If I book an ad for a strip club and you go there and look, was the ad offensive? I know a website is different…but is it really all that different?
I can definately see how this is a rough decision for you. Thank you for shedding more light on the subject. In answer to your question, I would have to say, yes, it is different. Mostly for the reason I stated above. Obviously a child or teen, pre-teen, can not go to the strip club, they may know what the ad is for, but they can’t get in.
The same holds true for the adult bookstore. But so many kids have access to the internet, and, while ultimately it is the parents position to monitor what their children are viewing, we all know that is not always the case.
And, moreover, the address ‘funsecrets’, I as a parent would really not be too suspicious of its nature if I saw it in print. I would hate to think of mom and dad and junior around the monitor, expecting to get to , say, a William Poundstone (Big Secrets) type of site, only to be forced to deal with the subject of swinging and alternate lifestyles. Nothing wrong with that as far as adults, but children need some buffers. Good luck!
I like it here-can I stay?
And do you have a vacancy for a Back-scrubber?
At least a bar or a store can control (to all intents and purposes) who can and cannot come in. Web sites are a little different.
At the end of the day, if the site isnt smutty, and there isnt anything potentially hardcore, well then, maybe, but the fact that it does have a harder section, well, I would still say no.
I was gonna’ side with JohnLarrigan and others on this one at first. But, after having read that you have had ads of an adult nature in the past, I don’t think this one is any worse. Both major papers in San Francisco run ads daily in the entertainment sections that are much worse than the site you posted. If the ads you’ve run before weren’t a problem, then I don’t think this one is, either. Just my humble opinion.
She said: “I know you and you cannot sing.”
I said: “That’s nothing - you should hear me play piano.”
My first reaction was like that of the others before me, “don’t run it.”
After some thought, I realize that much of what they have available on their site can be seen in a trip through the L.A. Times. I tend to shrug and give it little thought, one way or the other. I wasn’t offended, but I’m not in your situation either–although I do understand your concerns.
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<B>Kelli</b> - I think I would really need to see the ad, not the website, to see if it would be appropriate. But my superficial opinion would be that if you’re questioning it this strongly, it probably would be better not to run it.
I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. Kelli, there is a time and place for everything. Without seeing the section, it’s hard to tell wether it’s appropriate or not. But, you said the ads should be “clean and inoffensive”. I consider the website an extension of the ad, or URL posted in the paper. It is meant to be the ad, so, in effect, you should consider how you would regard the website content being displayed in the paper if you are going to post the site address.
Also, I have a hard time digesting the statements by Dirty Devil and EnigmaOne. Just because other metropolitan papers have run similar ads doesn’t mean it’s right, it means that either it is a different type of insert, or more than likely, that they have just sold out. Again, I may be wrong about the type of insert Kelli is reffering to. can you elaborate a little more?
Mike Mulligan had a steam shovel,
a beautiful red steam shovel.
Her name was Mary Anne.
Its a pull out which contains the tv listings for the week, and some general enertainment ‘stuff’.
The ad in question will be part of a ‘sig-ad’ or a large ad made up of several small ones.
The ad itself will be 3 by 3 (inches) and shows adults dancing, nightclub thing, with this text across the bottom:
What about the site itself?? What do you feel about the site? Suggestions? I know it mentions an adult subject, but so do the ads we run on adult bookstores etc.
My initial reaction was to tell you not to run it in a family publication since it is an adult site. But since you pointed out that you have run ads for other adult businesses in the same publication I do not really see a difference. Granted a web site is easier for a child to get to than a bar or adult store, but would the site not be filtered by most filtering software? I ask that out of ignorance since I have not used any filtering programs and am unsure of how effective they are. Anyway, I would not have a problem with it.
John
Then he got up on top
With a tip of his hat.
“I call this game FUN-IN- A-BOX”
Said the cat.