Her Daddy & Boyfriend act out ancient ritual. Black eyes result. Newslink

Unexpected guests who climb in through windows are quite likely to get shot at El Castillo de Scumpup.

“Yes, your honor, statuary rape: he was fondling the defendent’s marble bust.”

Yeah, at fifteen, a girl generally has firm breasts, but not that firm.

I dunno, if I catch someone I’m not expecting breaking into an empty room at night, they’ll be damn lucky if all they get is a black eye. What they’ll actually get depends on who catches them breaking into my home late at night. If I do it, they’ll get the cops called and a free ride to jail. If my husband catches them, they’ll get a close encounter of the baseball bat kind followed by a cops called and a free ride to jail. And they’ll have it coming. And you can bet your ass I’ll be pressing charges. Kid’s boyfriend or not - that maneuver was sufficiently stupid the kid would deserve it. You have to figure that at a bare minimum he frightened the shit out of everyone in the house. At eighteen he’s an adult and should be putting at least some thought into his freaking behavior. It doesn’t take much in the way of thought to come to the realization “Oh, hey, this might not be such a good idea”. He clearly didn’t even talk it over with his girlfriend - or he’d have known she wasn’t gonna be home.

Oh, and when it comes out precisely who was breaking into my teenaged daughter’s room late at night, a very long chat with my daughter about why exactly he felt he’d be welcomed in her bedroom in the middle of the damn night but felt he had to sneak in. I don’t want my kids feeling like they have to sneak around in their relationships. I really don’t want them to get the idea it’s appropriate somehow to sneak around in your relationships - if you’re embarassed to introduce him to your parents, something ain’t right. And if you’re ready to start having sex, you’re ready to talk about it with me so I can help make sure you get the protection you need. If you’re not ready to discuss sex like an adult and be mindful of the possible consequences, maybe you ought to rethink having it a little bit.

Whether or not I’d be okay with any (purely hypothetical at this point) 15-year-old daughter of mine dating an 18-year-old would depend entirely on the two kids involved. However, in Ohio at least, if they’re having sex (and I have to suspect it was at least a strong possibility they are, given the circumstances), then he’s breaking the law. That I wouldn’t be okay with. However, this kid richly deserved his black eyes.

Hmmm…

Happy? Incidentally, I totally agree with this:

Ih he was 15 and she was 15 he’d still be breaking the law (as would she). Teenagers like to have sex. I hear it’s hormonal, or something.

Except in a thesaurus:

What, exactly, are we trying to prove here again? I’ve lost track.

You used the word defendant wrong, but I’m still awarding you Wisecrack of the Year if that was original.

Whether or not we get to run a train on your sister :eek:

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IMHO, a teenage boy does not sneak into a teenage girl’s bedroom at night to discuss homework. Why would anyone assume that he was not there for sex? I would be surprised if this was the first time the boy had come by for an unsanctioned “visit”.

I base this largely on my experience with my sister. Her boyfriend would sneak in the house at night, and they would have sex. On one memorable occasion, my mother walked in on them during the act. I would be sorely pressed not to put my foot up his ass, and hers. While the Daddy in the article wasn’t subjected to this exact scenario, I could certainly understand his reaction (even assuming he knew the kid was his daughters boyfriend).

There is a real developmental difference between a high school freshman (15) and a senior (18), and as a parent I wouldn’t be thrilled with the relationship.

And yes, I also think it’s odd the boyfriend didn’t know his paramour wasn’t home that night.

FTR, I have a 15 year old daughter and this article makes me distinctly uneasy. We’ve talked about sex, birth control and STD’s, and I acknowledge it’s gonna happen (the sex; dear Og please not the other stuff), but I don’t have to be excited about it.

You really can’t believe that a teenage boy might just want companionship? Or even just a make-out session?

Sure, he probably wants to have sex - but there’s absolutely no reason to believe that they were having sex. Believe it or not, teenage girls (even yours!) are physically capable of uttering the word “no”. Tell them to take out the trash or something and you’ll see for yourself.

Sure, he may just intended to have a make-out session, and I will concede that there is a slight possibility he just wanted companionship, but I also remember being a teenager.

Sorry, gotta go, I’ll reply in full later.

One of the things about this board that never fails to warm my heart is how excluded the dear old middle can get.

I mean, some people might be prepared to entertain the notion that the guy was after entering the girl’s bedroom with her knowledge, consent and indeed approval, and that this might be the time for a serious talk with the pair of them, but no, apparently we have to choose between condoning teenage boys fucking any under-age girl who can be intimidated into not physically struggling, or approve of whacking the crap out of them with a baseball bat.

  1. A 15 year old is a sophomore (and considering this is May, said 15 year old is likely going into her junior year in the fall).

  2. Depending on when the age cut-off is in Ohio (I can’t find it), said 18 might not be a senior until the fall. It’s unlikely, but it’s possible.

  3. I’m a supervisor to a range of high school students and making blanket statements about the developmental level of teens based on their age is moronic. I’ve got 15/16 year olds more together than 18 year olds and vice versa. It’s very possible this girl is completely with it and is dating a dim bulb to feel even smarter.

I guess I missed the part in the OP that described how the girl was coerced and damaged, but good on ya for catching it, or inferring it. Or just assuming it.

Having been and 18 year old boy at one point, my two young daughters will eventually discover that they won’t be dating one when they turn 15. And if there is one and he sneaks into my daughter’s room at night, I’ll be handing out black eyes first, and talking later. Coercion and/or damage aren’t even part of the equation.

You’re kidding, right? storyteller0910 and Aangelica are right on. The kid should be thankful he only got a couple of black eyes. Breaking into someone’s house around here is a great way to get shot. I don’t care if he was sneaking into her room to get that night’s algebra homework, breaking into another person’s house is phenomenally, possibly fatally, stupid.

Did you actually read any of the conversation beyond the post you quoted? The whole point is that sneaking into someone’s house is a good way to get the crap whacked out of you, irrespective of what you were or weren’t planning to do with the owner’s daughter. I think it’s weird that a behavior that most people would normally condemn - sneaking into someone’s house unexpected and uninvited - suddenly has defenders when the sneaker’s goal is nookie.

I think it’s weird that you assert that the sneaker’s goal is nookie after saying it doesn’t matter whether the sneaker’s goal is nookie.

OK, in numbered list format.

  1. What the sneaker did wrong regardless of his goal or intention. I think it’s stupid and bad to sneak into someone’s house. Period. Full stop.

  2. I think most people agree with me, under most circumstances.

  3. In this particular case, a surprising number of people have defended the action with which I most disagree (the sneaking into someone’s house) on the basis of the (ostensible, though admittedly not certain) goal of the sneaker.

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