Yup.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, but catsix, you put that perfectly.
Quiddity, perhaps you should put a little thought into toning it (it being your sanctimonious bullshit) down - do you see at ALL how you come across? Or is it that you do and you just don’t care?? I’m honestly perplexed. If a whole bunch of people were telling me I was acting like an ass, why in the world wouldn’t I LISTEN to them and change my behavior accordingly?? 
Oh good lord! I posted a reply based on the only information I had at the time! Zounds, what temerity!
Given that all we have to go on in a thread is the data we’re given, I’m not exactly sure how you expect anyone to divine further information otherwise.
I don’t go back to every thread I’ve posted to so I didn’t see the rest of the story. I saw that she was pitted and why, was unimpressed that she’d pictured herself a victim without giving the whole story, and did this :rolleyes: and some of this :smack: . Yeah. Stupid me for believing a poster was being honest. So tell me again why I should take posters’ words as gospel? 
When I say I am dubious about posters, this is what I mean. You never do know if you’re getting the whole story. In fact, that’s true of any post about a poster’s life or experience. So then I guess nobody should ever answer a post about life experiences because we can never guarantee we know the full story.
Because their assumptions about me are incorrect. Despite my explanations, people ascribe motivations to me which simply aren’t true. Some people understand what I’m about, others just don’t get it. If you think I’m an ass for bogus reasons, I’m still not an ass and you’re just wrong. Why should I validate your wrongness by changing?
The whole Liberal/PRR thing. You took Lib’s side without reading the original thread, and admitted that you knee-jerk defended Lib and didn’t stick up for PRR because PRR bugged you. You still haven’t conceded that you undermined your own intent, ie., to stick up for the persecuted and defend against excessive meanness.
Your claim that sexism is part of this is just self-serving bullshit. Of course you know this, but any way to can use to twist the thread so that you are a martyr and the rest of us monsters, you will. Whatever it takes to avoid self-reflection and acknowledging the inherent inconsistency in your alleged moral stance. Morality without consistency is not morality at all. Surely you know this…
Forget motivations, stick to the concept of ‘Tone’. Your written tone, not what you intend, not how you are verbally, but your written tone is often heavy with condescension and smugness. Are you sure, you want to continue with this?
Please note, it is easy to ignore posters like myself and Rubystreak, but do you really think that little of posters like Sarafeena, Twickster, Crotalus, and QtM and others?
You honestly do not see that there might be a problem with how you write?
Jim
“She was very, very willing to tell one and all exactly what Richard Dawkins has to say in his books, until I asked her whcih books of his she has read. It turns out that it is none of them.”
That was the thread that brought QG (who I thought was male) to my attention, too. Now , any post by QF gets disredited in my mind as just another smart-aleck know-it-all who has no real basis for his/her opinion(s).
How 'bout when you turned the Punctuality thread into an ADD free-for-all.
Count me among the cringing.
Out of curiosity, I just checked my last 250 posts. Of that 250, 7 were in the Pit: 5 in this thread (now 6) and 2 in a thread about whether or not Dr. Phil is the antichrist – I said “not.”
How is that not interpretation? If some people interpret how I write one way and others interpret it another, who’s right? Clearly it’s subjective.
Don’t put words in my mouth (or fingers). Saying ‘not everybody has the same opinion’ is not denigrating someone or ‘thinking little of’ them. If you are saying that I should listen to their - or your - opinions over the opinions of people I know in person, sorry, not gonna do that. Why would I?
Until this thread I had no idea QG considered herself “smart”. Most of the posts by her that I’ve seen have been pointless (but frequently condescending) one-liners followed by a smiley of some kind ( :rolleyes: seems to be a favorite). An emotional thread-shitter that’s unable to do much but praise Canada and bash the US, not an intellectual by any stretch of the imagination. I’ve no idea her background, but I figured her for a suburban yuppie trophy-wife (Anyone else see “How can you eat an entire half-pint of Häagen-Dazs? I’d be sick!”) that doesn’t understand how anyone could think that victims of abuse have any right to try to defend themselves.
There are some posters who contribute to discussions, some who stir things up, some who add a little humor, some who hold opinions so different that I read their posts to see how “the other side” feels, but very few that I feel I can skip over their comments and be smarter for having done so. Not even worth the effort to ignore, QG is like the Cathy comic strip - my day is no better after reading it and no worse after not.
So did I.
You’re missing the point. If you’re dismissing my opinion as being that of a Pit jackal, you shouldn’t, because this isn’t where I hang, and attacking people as a blood sport isn’t what I do.
Aw, now you’re just being cruel.
Well, this set of pixels very much likes Quiddty Glomfuster. She rose to my defense not very long ago when I needed it most, and wittingly or not, deflected an awful lot of rancor onto herself. Whatever anyone else might think of her, I think she is courageous. And I appreciate her.
I am repeating and emphasizing this statement.
QG, when you showed up, I initially liked you quite a bit. Your username is extremely amusing, and you had a devil-may-care attitude that I found appealing.
But then your posts began to accumulate, and your attitude, and personality, coalesced.
You are arrogant. You are irritating. You are condescending. And I have grown to dread seeing your posts because for every one that’s clever and funny and interesting, you have one where you’re sermonizing from your imagined ivory tower, unaware that your windows are closed and you aren’t as smart as you think you are. Your ability to sidetrack and sometimes trainwreck threads with your ridiculously rigid moral pronouncements is, frankly, stunning.
One’s character, I believe, is truly exposed when one is revealed to be wrong about something. The difference between someone who is smart and one who is intelligent is that the intelligent person knows when to say “I don’t know” and “I guess I was wrong about that.” As far as I can tell, you have never done this, and I find that extremely telling.
I started out as a fan. You did not rub me wrong at the outset; I am not someone who decided you were an enemy from day one.
But you have lost me. Slowly. Incrementally. Post by post.
If you choose to reflect on this, it would be to your betterment.
You’re right, that was over the top - Sorry Quiddity, that was uncalled for even in the pit.
And what does that have to do with my assertion? It’s not pit postings that have made me form the impression I have of you. And I suspect that’s also true for more than a few other posters.
Anyway, those are my observations. I have no expectation that anyone must do anything differently because of them.
I had no real idea of your gender until you pointed it out several times in this thread and I still thought you come off as a condescending bitch at times. Not that others in this thread don’t come off that way at times too, just saying that gender doesn’t really matter.
Still love your username though, I say it and sing it to myself sometimes.
Aargh!!! You did it again, you changed a simple statement into something else. I was saying and I think fairly clearly that while I do not expect you to take advice from myself and **Rubystreak ** to heart, you really should from the many fine, kind, non-pit-fiends that are saying almost the same thing about you that I am.
Are you doing this deliberately? It sure seems that way.
As well you should. However, as her friend and object of her defense, do you see any of the complaints being legit being made? Again ignore my statements, you have no reason to respect what I said, but what about what so many others have said? This is not a team sport, this is not a high school debate, **QG ** seems to annoy almost as many posters as you do, you know and recognize this about yourself. Maybe you can get her to see the errors of her way.
It is obvious I have no hope of doing so.
Jim
I can finally weigh in here. I have literally been watching the thread develop all night, because the baby would not sleep, but I didn’t have free arms to type. He’s finally dozing, so I’m going to see how much I can get down before he wakes up.
I’m going to start with this claim you make that people are treating you differently because we have discovered you are a woman. This is pure, unadulterated bullshit, and on top of that, a claim you can easily make without really having the means to prove it. I have never seen anyone treated differently on this board because they are female. Not you, not anyone. I would suggest that you climb off of that horse, because no one is going to buy it, and it makes you look whiny and defensive.
You aren’t getting it. All people have to go by here is what you say and how you say it. We know the bare minimum about your life. The way people react to you is only based on how you treat them, in the most basic way. You can go on and on with your “explanations,” but frankly, they are irrelevant to this pitting. What IS relevant is your tone, your attitude, the impression you give others about what you think of them. Your comment about us being nothing but “pixels on a screen” is very revealing. You know, we are not just pixels, we are real, live human beings. We have feelings. This is a place for exchanges of ideas…it’s not a place for you to vent your frustrations that no one has ever understood how damn smart you are. If you want people to 1) think you are smart and 2) respect what you have to say, you have to act accordingly towards them. It’s not difficult. You say that people are intimidated by you…but I’m not sure you are reading that correctly, in all seriousness. There are other reasons that someone might have for reacting to you negatively. You might want to think about what those might be. I have known some very brilliant people in my life who never had this problem with people being “intimidated” by them. It’s because they are nice, treat people as equals, don’t talk down to them, and admit when they are wrong (and, yes, smart people are sometimes wrong).