Check out this video. It allows the disabled to stand, squat, and even has a remote control.
Ehhh. Static weight bearing isn’t too therapeutic. I have a similar standing chair (altho it’s not motorized) that I haven’t used in years. No real point, imo. Yes, there is the convenience of being able to reach things higher but in order to do that you have to get into this big, bulky, non-transportable wheelchair. IMO, it’s easier to just use a reacher.
That is one of the slowest chairs/scooters I have seen.
Let me know when they have a demo video using a person with no use of his legs.
The model in this video makes some really unimpressive token efforts to lift and place his feet.
And any such product using Velcro for restraints loses all credibility.
The point of standing chairs isn’t to have fun in them, it’s therapy for strengthening the leg bones (primarily, there are other benefits but they are relatively small benefits). We have learned, however, that in order to reap any real benefits from the weight bearing, the weight bearing needs to be dynamic, not static. That is what led to the latest version of standing chairs, chairs that combined the standing with vibration. This is what is therapeutic.
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It’s not uncommon for disability products to be advertised using able-bodied people. My wag is that using able-bodied people allows for a clearer communication of the functions and abilities of said product. Just a guess tho
How about being able to talk to people eye to eye? ISTM the social benefit of this is considerable. And how about being better able to use other people’s homes? Would this not be a boon to you when visiting friends?
Fuck no. First of all, transporting such a large chair would be dependent on a van. I’ve never once taken my standing chair out of my house, I haven’t been able to. And yes, there is a novelty in standing and talking to people eye to eye, even kissing eye to eye is nice. But it’s limited to the people who come to your home. There is no real applicable social benefit, however, unless you were to commit copious amounts of time and money to that end. IMO, getting a standing chair for any reason other than strengthening your bones is a mistake. In order to get any benefit, you have to use it regularly. It’s a major inconvenience. Especially when you are informed of the severe limits of static standing benefits. It just doesn’t seem worth it at all.
Any social benefit of eye to eye contact and the like is ablist. ‘Now that you’re more normal I like you better!’
Many wheelchair users of my acquaintance use something like a van anyway. But this looks like it could lie flat in the boot of a larger car.
What does it weigh? Can a person in a wheelchair get it into the boot of a larger car?
I don’t know, but many wheelchair users of my acquaintance are driven around by other - able-bodied - people.
Well the wheelchair users you know aren’t representative of all wheelchair users. I know faaar more wheelchair users who drive regular cars than vans. The only younger ones who do use vans are quadriplegics. I think there is a misconception about wheelchair users and driving, based on the stereotype of us requiring a modified van to drive. I don’t know how many people I’ve had make comments like, “so you drive a van then?” when discussing independence. I will not be caught dead driving a fucking van before I’m an old fart.
While I’ve never seen a car that was big enough to fit a standing wheelchair, even if such cars are available, a wheelchair user is not going to be able to put it in the trunk without some assistance. And assistance is often times not available.
Again, not representative of many wheelchair users.
Quartz is in the UK, so there may be an allowance or service the NHS provides for that purpose.
Or the wheelchair users he knows are rich and have chauffeurs? The only non-driving wheelchair user I know (an elderly relative) has never driven, that’s why it’s up to a shuttle service or friend to carry her to stores, appointments and the like.
But as you pointed out, there’s a generational difference as well, right? The younger the wheelchair user, the more likely they’ll drive and drive a car rather than a van? The wheelchair user I dated was in his mid-30s and drove a van; but it had been a surprise gift to him from his church family and didn’t even have AC (which I didn’t notice but he bemoaned).
I think a big reason why people believe stereotypes of disabled people is because the most severely disabled are the easiest to notice. It’s easier to notice the guy who has a motorized lift that opens up and provides a ramp to get in and out of the van than it is to notice the guy driving a Saturn.
Agreed. And a modified van is fucking expensive, on average in excess of $60,000. If someone got me a van as a gift, I’d probably use it occasionally myself. But I’d also keep my cars as my main transportation.
Just because it works for a bad reason doesn’t make it stop working.
A better argument is that it would only provide a social benefit when you’re interacting with abelist fools, which is not really a benefit, but people occasionally have to make accommodations for the stupid and bigoted to get on in life.
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Ain’t no “occasionally” about it! Going out in the world as a wheelchair user is to immerse oneself in the stupidity and bigoted nature of the general public.
My brother-in-law has been looking into something like this (this may have been the one he was checking out, I’m not sure) but not for just getting around. He’s a carpenter. He’s had his shopped modified so that he’s pretty independent in there (he does have a full-time shop gopher (his son)). A standing wheel chair like that might make some things easier. But truth be told, I think he’s getting so good at dealing with it in his chair (he’s only been in it for about four years), I don’t think he’d want to put up with the added pain-in-the-ass of the thing.