Heritage? Nah, just hate.

He has a point (rofl), it is an ancient “thing”. So when do we bring back cannibalism, human sacrifice, etc? :cool:

Good!

That and idiocy.

Not really. All the government had to do to prevent the 1885 Rebellion from occurring was to grant the people already living in the Northwest Territories, newly acquired from the Hudson Bay Company, title to the land that they had settled. Since the plan was to give away the land in the NWT in exchange for settling it, this wouldn’t have been much of a concession. That it instead came to violence is more the fault of MacDonald than it is of Riel.

And of course it didn’t help that the government was simultaneously using starvation as negotiation leverage to force the Cree to treaty talks. Can’t pin that on Louis either.

That is seriously messed up.

Let’s be honest. Canada does have a deep rooted race issue, but it more about red than black.

True.

We acknowledge that the Holocaust happened. That doesn’t mean we put up statues of Hitler in the park.

Don’t give him ideas.

The deeper, more fundamental problem is that the United States was a country that was founded on racial inequality. It has had opportunities to evolve, but it has resisted doing so, taking baby steps along the way, with the ruling white class never fully acknowledging the scale of what it has done to other minority groups, particularly blacks. Not coincidentally, America is a country where the predominately white economic and political establishment seeks to maintain a society in which income and wealth are distributed unevenly. America’s socioeconomic elite will tell you that people are theoretically treated the same under the law and that this is enough to justify disparities in outcomes. But until the United States becomes a society that cares more about create a society in which the vast majority can live without the fear of economic distress, it will continue to have these kinds of deep divisions.

And a statue of Robert E. Lee in a public park is a giant “fuck you” to the descendants of Jefferson’s slaves who live in the shadow of Monticello.

I can’t speak for every single monument across the South but it is fairly-well documented that many of the monuments were erected as a way of giving the finger to Northern Republicans who imposed terms on defeated Southerners during Reconstruction. It’s the White South’s way of saying "We may have lost the war and we may no longer be able to own slaves, but we can replace slavery with a race-based hierarchy that is almost as inhumane and there’s not a goddamn thing Washington can do about it." And until the 1960s, that proved to be quite true.

Many confederate statues were erected, and many schools were named after confederates beginning in the 1940s as a reaction to talk about desegregation. What a lot of people see as a 19th century tradition actually has its roots in an overt push against racial equality in the mid-twentieth century.

Oops! :smiley:

More specifically, it’s a reminder to stay in their place and not get uppity.

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Ever since you became a mod, you’ve been just itching for the chance to post that, haven’t you? :wink:

As an outsider, what confuses me about this shit is; surely there’s non-racist, non-slavery-associated stuff by which to celebrate the South? I don’t know much about the history of the American South, but the Confederate flag and important Civil War figures can’t be it, can it?

I don’t understand why people don’t just celebrate the good stuff and dump the crap and crap-aligned.

Is this his first? CONGRATS!!! :smiley:

But seriously, Miller is right. In my own defense, I did self-report on myself in an attempt fix it.

Bullshit. Shooting at US soldiers is entirely contrary to “American values”, pretty much by definition. Might as well say Tim McVeigh and the Unabomber “embodied American values”.