Yeah, not likely to get an explanation, or at least an explanation that makes sense. Kind of goes with the comic book territory sometimes.
Whilst we’re picking the nits, how come Claire could come back from the dead once the eclipse passed? This trick didn’t work for Future Peter who got shot whilst without the healing factor.
No, I don’t expect to find out. Just like I’ve given up on the hope of them bothering to tell me how Nathan managed to come back from the dead back in episode 1 this season.
And how his flying ability, for the second time, doesn’t seem to be affected by the Haitian.
I think we have already established that the Haitian can selectively block or allow abilities at will; for example when he was secretly working for Angela he allowed Nathan to get away when HRG and the Haitian had him cornered. Not a big mystery there.
Can’t really answer the question about Nathan healing in episode one this season; if they used the “Claire’s blood” or “Adam’s blood” trick to heal Nathan, then you would think that Maury would have used the same trick to heal Arthur, but obviously he didn’t. I suppose it could be that Nathan has superluck. The alternate explanation is that Linderman DID survive and actually did heal Nathan and is currently behind the scenes, working with either Angela or Arthur.
Indeed- and given that Peter actively dissuaded Claire from showing up with her magic blood to lend a hand (as he’d gone to all the trouble of killing him in the first place in one of his usual ultra well thought out schemes) and Adam was underground, we can probably rule the magic blood out.
It still bugs me - reminds me of when Chris Claremont would do stuff like this with the X-Men, set up little mysteries and then get bored and not be arsed to think up an answer.
ETA: The little webcomics (which they count as canon) specifically state Linderman can only heal the injured/maimed - he can’t bring back the dead.
Huh. Hadn’t thought of that. Of course the big mystery is then why didn’t HRG do or say anything about it? “Uh…why did you just let him fly away?” IIRC he was not secretly working for Angela.
He may well have asked and all Haitian has to say is he caught him by surprise, much as Nathan just did Bennet himself by escaping in the first place. It was never clear why they were trying to tag the child of one of the Company Founders in the first place, of course.
When Claire finally found out that Angela was her grandmother, the Haitian appeared ominously in the background. There was also talk about the Haitian was working for someone high up in the company, higher than the person that Noah was reporting to at the time (Thompson, I presume). That’s why he kept secretly meeting with Claire without HRG’s knowledge.
And IIRC, the Haitian merely shrugged when Noah gave him a questioning look after Nathan flew away. Apparently that was enough. As far as Noah knew, maybe the Haitian’s powers only worked on MOST people with abilities or something like that.
Future!Peter had Claire’s power, and an unknown number of other powers as well. He spent much time hanging around injured Nathan… who “miraculously” survived the bullet wound. Is there really a mystery, here?
Did anything happen after Hiro and Clair are watching their younger selves? My DVR cut off after Clair was stopped from yelling “holy shit!”.
I can deal with a lot of goofiness, but I hate when a character is forced to do something uncharacteristic just to make an unnecessary subplot happen. The previous episode ended with both Sylar and Elle in Noah’s sniper scope. Pull the trigger, Bennett!
And Elle actually said “Who’s doing this?” God, I hope she is dead.
What’s interesting is that both Angela and Arthur told him the same lie (if lie it was), without actually ever speaking to each other. That we saw. So how would Arthur know about it? Are they colluding, and all that fear on Angela’s part was fake (and thusly all that angst over Arthur trying to kill Nathan, too)? Or did Arthur manage to stumble across her story telepathically, right before he put her into a coma, even though he wasn’t specifically looking for it?
And I laughed and cheered when Hiro popped in and teleported Sylar away. Finally, someone uses his powers intelligently… and he had to be 10 to do it! 
-Angela bullshits Sylar about being his mom, having had a gander at his shit-what-a-momma’s-boy company file
-Arthur, having sucked Peter’s mindreading, pulls that put of Sylar’s head when he came over to liberate Peter, and decides to use it to his advantage, knowing it’s bullshit?
ohpleaseohpleaseohplease
Seconded. Also hated for exactly the same reason Bennet cutting Sylar’s throat (in the wrong place) and just trusting that he’s bound to die from the wound eventually.
Well I think so, yes. Admittedly its probably one of the smaller plot annoyances this season but it bugs me. And yeah the fact that Future Peter looks as startled as we are means the answer is likely to be “probably FuturePeter accessing an astonishingly powerful ability that he never knew he had before this precise minute”. As explanations go, its right up there with “a wizard did it”. And we were left to come up with an answer on our own because they couldn’t be arsed to think of an answer (it would seem). I dunno - there were more egregious plot twists and turns this seaon but the killing off and then reviving from the dead one of the main cast without bothering to say how really pissed me off.
Future Peter looks startled at Nathan’s recovery because he is still pretending to be Present Peter. Who would have been startled at Nathan’s recovery.
And, to be specific here, he is pretending for the audience.
This isn’t a mystery; this is the writers shorthanding another plot point. They’ve a bad habit of doing so… but then again, their “fans” complain when everything is too explained, as though the viewers don’t have half a brain to figure out what is going on without being spoon-fed. So they’re sort of damned if they do or don’t, here.
I call genuine surprise because
A) He’s alone with Nathan so feigning surprise would be pointless - there aren’t witnesses and we at home already know who he really is.
B) Prior to Nathan rejoining the living Peter delivers a speech along the lines of 'really sorry but I had no choice about killing you - sorry ‘bout that, seeya’
But most of all C) Why would he feign surprise in the first place? This suggests bringing Nathan back to life was part of his plan all along. No way. We at home have just watched him go to all the trouble of gunning him down in the first place including blocking Claire from saving his life. Then we see him follow Nathan to the chapel obviously with a mind to finish the job (he is reaching for the gun inhis jacket as he hears Nathan talk). Only Nathan then blathering away about seeing God changes his mind.
As I mentioned: he is feigning surprise for the audience. It was solely a contrivance to keep the audience guessing.
I’m sure one could fanwank it that Future Peter was acting in character just in case someone happened to be observing him. But, seriously, it was done so they could have a dramatic reveal about Future Peter taking the place of Present Peter.
Of course Future Peter had a plan for saving Nathan’s life after shooting him. This is Peter we’re talking about – future or not, he’s still not someone able to kill his brother.
He rode along with Nathan in the ambulence, and sat with him in the hospital. With all his powers, if he had wanted Nathan dead for sure, that is what would have happened. Instead, Nathan gets a miraculous recovery… with Future Peter around the whole time, the only one capable of doing such a thing. Since he has Claire’s power.
And he wasn’t blocking Claire from saving Nathan’s life – Nathan’s life had already been saved. He was blocking Claire from starting on the path that led to Future Claire being such a bitch.
Sigh, I’m so aware from the outside this must look like two bald people fighting over a comb. I confess the idea that we are supposed to think Of course I’m aware that sometimes characters say things that aren’t always true for the benefit of the show misleading the audience. However, there ARE rules and one of the main ones is that there must be an explanation that makes there actions make sense within their world onscreen.
It strains credibility to breaking point and beyond to interpret Peter welling up in tears at the sight of his brother’s corpse, whispering “it shouldn’t have ended like this” to him and then kissing him goodbye, all in an empty room as all going to some overly elaborate plan. No there are rules and one of them is confessions made to dead people and gravestones are sincere.
Heh. Pretty close to what I thought after posting. 'Cept I’m all sensitive about receeding hairline, so try to avoid that particular mental image. :eek:
While I agree that there are tv conventions that normally aren’t violated, I do think that the Heroes writers are compelled to write “wouldn’t it be cool if” moments. And the “shocking” reveal that Future Peter was posing as Present Peter was obviously one of those. Anything that violated that reveal was papered over, basically.
I also think that is how we ended up with the World’s Longest Eclipse Plot Twist. Didn’t matter to them that eclipses don’t work that way, it was a “wouldn’t it be cool if” moment, for them.
And “wouldn’t it be cool if one eclipse gave them powers, and the next one took them away,” ignoring that people already HAD powers during the first eclipse, and that other people (Adam, mostly) had probably lived through a bunch of them.
They could fanwank an explanation by saying that you have to actually see the eclipse to be affected by it, and Adam got caught in one when he was, like, 90, so it just made him really old, and he studied astronomy and lived in a cave after that point, but still. Lame.