While striking against his own show Tim Kring apologizes for season 2 so far. Seems like he agrees with most of the fans. I don’t dislike the season but I do see problems with the pacing. Good news: the next few episodes seem to be better. Bad news: because of the strike the mid-season hiatus ender will probably be the season finale.
Is it West he’s referring to as a “super dud boyfriend”?
That’s what I would call him. Like I said I have enjoyed this season, but not as much. The Claire plotline makes me want to stick needles in my eyes when it comes on.
Summarized from the article:
Yup. That’s pretty much what we’ve all been saying in the Heroes threads.
And I shall henceforth call West “Super-Dud”!
W00t!!!
And show Peter Petrelli naked already. It’ll atone somewhat for his “Third Salutatorian of the Keanu Reaves Righteous Acting Academy” delivery.
I wish you all wouldn’t talk bad about “Heroes”. It hurts my feelings.
Nope I agree, it’s really starting to suck. So Nakamura’s entire dance in historic Japan turns out meaning what? Some suspending of disbelief is required to watch a show of super heroes, but these ridiculously contrived plot devices (amnesia, new york again is the key, etc.) is turning this into a stale soap opera. I think last Monday was my final episode. On a related note, does this mean we’ll have to wait a few more years for the final episodes of* Lost*?
No mention of the embarrassingly shoddy compositing effects, though.
If you didn’t like the last episode than it probably is time for you to bail. IMO it got back to what made the show good in the first place. And the article (written by someone who has seen the next two episodes) promises that the next few are more of the same.
Last year, Kring was saying that season two would be even more oriented toward new heroes than became the case in reality. And last year, I was saying that the audience would never accept this because they would want to stick with their familiar characters.
You can only save the world once. After that, everything you do becomes anticlimatic (especially if you don’t work for a super-secret government organization).
Television is about continuity, not about climaxes season after season. People always ask why programs that don’t seem innovative last for years when “cool” programs don’t get ratings. OK, usually it’s because the “cool” programs aren’t very good. But the rest of the time it’s because “cool” writers try to pack everything into a season and then realize they have to come back and top themselves the next year. They’d be better off simply spinning out the lives of their characters without life-changing events in every episode. (Brits, with their 6 or 8 episode seasons, can do a lot more than our shows which have to fill up 22 hours with plot.)
Kring has changed the emphasis of the show about twelve million times over less than a season and a half. Now he’s proclaimed that he’ll do it again. Is that really a good thing? What is the show about at this point? What will it be about in the future? The strike may save him, if it’s short. If not, what audience will be waiting next fall?
Really? It’s a live action comicbook. Ever read a comicbook? They save the world over and over.
Nah, saving the world never gets old. That’s like saying “boy meets girl, falls in love” gets old. Doesn’t that dude in 24 save stuff all the time?
What’s this about the mid-season break being the season finale? I’m out of touch. What the hell is this strike doing to TV?
Well theres no writers, therefore theres no show. They are retooling the episode they already had so it can be a season finale in case they cant get any more done.
I missed a step or two. Why does the Bob vs. Mohinder thing result in a world killing virus?
Thousands.
This month they save the world from a cosmic catastrophe. Next month they foil a bank robbery. The month after they save the world from a superbaddie with a radioactive goiter. The month after, all time explodes.
That’s why “comic book” is a pejorative.
And it’s also why the readership of superhero comics has fallen about 90% over the past couple of decades. Superman once fought ordinary villains. Now he has to contend with gods. When all you do is try to top yourself, you write yourself into a corner very quickly and the audience recognizes that. If everything is special, then nothing is. It’s a real problem for superhero comics and it’s a real problem for arc-driven tv shows. Has anyone really cared about Desperate Housewives after they solved the first season mystery? The audience couldn’t believe they’d go through something like that every single season. The guy in Prison Break is back in prison trying to break out. Nobody cares. Same with a hundred other shows.
If you’re trying to make a show matter, then you can’t repeat yourself. You can solve the crime of the week forever but you can’t save the world time after time.
It’s comic book. And except for the tiniest percentage of fans, that’s a bad thing.
It’s a comic book this year. It was one last year. If it is done correctly people will care and enjoy it. You are making an argument against any show with an arc. I find them much more enjoyable. For those that don’t there are plenty of Law and Orders.
Tell that to Buffy.
Of course you can save the world more than once - but the downtime between world savings can tend to be dull when you have nothing to do but wait for the next ultra-mega-catastrophe. He failed to give them anything to do.
I was hoping they’d unite more than they have, and use each other’s strengths. But it’s like they scattered to the four winds, causing them to be weakened, even though many of them had an agenda they needed to address.
Yes, the girl who had to know the plural form of “Apocalypse”!