"He's not my President"

[Ca3799]

[quote=“dba_Fred, post:1, topic:471257”]

As I’ve often heard that sentiment about the current occupant of the office, I trust there’s not a problem with my saying that of the incoming occupant.

[QUOTE]

Hey, Rush, you should be happy to have the possibility of 4 more years of bitching and grousing! Enjoy!

[dba_Fred]

@Buckler_of_Swashing

Forgive me if I am wrong, but - even though now it has been adopted to some extent by people who just don’t like Bush - wasn’t the anti-Bush ‘He’s not my President’ based on the controversy surrounding the circumstances of his election to the office?

If this is the case - and I’m not sure, that’s just the context in which I remember I first started to hear people express that sentiment - then wouldn’t your use of it in reference to President-Elect Obama be, you know, baseless - regardless of how satisfying it might be to throw the sentiment back in the faces of Bush-haters? At least they could put forward some semblance of a reason why he was not their president - yours would be ‘I don’t like him so therefore he’s not’.

My position is that after all the evidence/results of investigations and legal process I’d seen/heard/read about the Bush election controversy, despite all that, the anti-Bushers still felt “He’s not my President” was still an acceptable statement. Thus, since truth and facts didn’t get in the way of their position, why should I let them get in the way of mine?
I like pointing out hypocrisy and popping balloons.

[Zebra]

A lot of people started saying this about the current president AFTER he had enacted policy after policy after policy that was so morally repugnant to observers that they had to distance themselves from him.

Starting a war under false pretenses.
Totally destroying the good will the world felt for us after 9/11.
Total disregard for the rule of law.

I could go on but, tell me, what has President Obama done that makes you have to distance yourself from him.

[Eutychus]

@dba_Fred

My position is that after all the evidence/results of investigations and legal process I’d seen/heard/read about the Bush election controversy, despite all that, the anti-Bushers still felt “He’s not my President” was still an acceptable statement.

And they were as wrong as you are.

[Jack_Batty]

Anyone got the search chops to see how often “Bush is not my president” or a variation thereof was floated on these boards?

Not that I doubt it ever happened, I’m just curious.

[Q.E.D]

@Zebra

I could go on but, tell me, what has President Obama done that makes you have to distance yourself from him.

Born black, if the other bigotry expressed by the OP is any indication.

[El_Kabong]

@dba_Fred

I like pointing out hypocrisy and popping balloons.

I see, so since you posted your OP here, apparently you feel that specific posters on this board are hypocrites, right? Care to name some names?

Or maybe you’ve decided to label anyone who disagrees with your premise a hyprocrite, without ever establishing whether or not they’ve actually said “Bush is not my President”, is that it?

Not a very well-thought out position, if you ask me.

[spoike]

As soon as I saw this thread, I suspected you’d posted your OP solely so you could play the martyr card when people responded negatively to it.

The following comments:

@dba_Fred

…I can now sleep well at night knowing that my thoughts and opinions are retarded and based on bigotry, while yours 5-HT, why they must comes from the lips of angels or pure analytical logic…

and

@dba_Fred

…Yes, with the memory of expression of recent non-right-wing commentators on the current POTUS, I too will expect a reciprocal fairminded, principled allegiance.

confirmed my suspicions.

At any rate, regarding your thoughts on your new President. Eh, whatever. If it makes you feel better to say that, more power to you, I guess.

As to Prop 102, I pity you. It must be difficult to be aware that your opinions and beliefs are becoming more outdated and irrelevant as time goes on. I imagine it will only get worse for you as you watch the world change around you, without actually being a part of said change. Because, make no mistake, the change is coming, and you, and other bigots like you, will be left behind.

[5-HT]

@buttonjockey308

Uh-uh. Bullshit. You don’t know what the motivations are, and until he/she says “i didn’t vote for Obama and he’s not my President because he’s black” you can only guess and look what good guessing has done for the past 8 years.

The fact dba Fred is that he IS your president, like Bush is ours until January. You can say whatever it is you want, freedom of speech and all that, but we’ll never so much as slouch even an inch closer to the future if we keep this up.

I didn’t call him a bigot for not supporting obama or calling him his president, I called him a bigot for supporting the denial of marriage rights to people.

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

If that’s your position, so be it. Don’t bother trying to justify it because people said that about W, though.

You know damn well it was said of W first because William Rehnquist got to vote for him twice, and then because he was a shitty President. Since Obama has apparently been cleanly elected, it stands to reason that you owe him at least a month or two in office before you make up your mind.

Otherwise, what the hell are you going to do if he does suck? “He’s super-dooper-triple not my President!”

[The_Tao_s_Revenge]

you all are getting trolled hard.

[Binarydrone]

@olivesmarch4th

Do you know anybody who’s gay? What are your thoughts on homosexuality? What in particular about gay marriage do you find problematic?

Probably the butt sex.

[El_Kabong]

you all are getting trolled hard.

Not very hard at all, frankly. In fact rather limp and flaccid.

[dba_Fred]

@The_Tao_s_Revenge

you all are getting trolled hard.

I swear or affirm this was not a troll. I may have bitten off more than I can chew it that I am not explaining/defending/elaborating on my statement as well/clearly as I would hope to. There are interesting, well-thought replies/comments/remarks that I am getting to as quickly as I can.

[dba_Fred]

@El_Kabong

Not very hard at all, frankly. In fact rather limp and flaccid.

So you can enlighten us on how you handle that problem when it arises (or doesn’t arise) in your boudoir?

[beowulff]

Get out of MY state.
Asshole.

[dba_Fred]

@olivesmarch4th

Do you know anybody who’s gay? What are your thoughts on homosexuality? What in particular about gay marriage do you find problematic?

I’ll buy the coffee to discuss this with you over.

I try to be precise and exact and truthful:
At this moment in time, I am not aware of any current friend or associate who is gay. I have in the past had friends and or associates who informed me that they were gay. Did it matter? No, they never put me in an uncomfortable or unacceptable situation.
I don’t spend much time considering homosexuality beyond the theoretical. It is not a behavior I would engage in. I do not/have not sought out homosexual environments, I do not/have not avoided them. I do not hate homosexuals nor would I attempt to change their sexual orientation. I’m not even sure homosexuality is a “choice”; why would a person choose a lifestyle that can have such negative repercussions?
To answer about what in particulate about gay marriage that I find problematic, in simplistic terms I would say that I don’t see it as a problem that requires a solution. The pro-gay marriage side simply didn’t persuade me to change the status quo.

[Really_Not_All_That_Bright]

@dba_Fred

To answer about what in particulate about gay marriage that I find problematic, in simplistic terms I would say that I don’t see it as a problem that requires a solution. The pro-gay marriage side simply didn’t persuade me to change the status quo.

Apparently, though, the anti-SSM crowd did persuade you to change the status quo. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have voted on the amendment at all.

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@dba_Fred

As I’ve often heard that sentiment about the current occupant of the office, I trust there’s not a problem with my saying that of the incoming occupant.

Only if you said it was OK when they were saying it.

It was a stupid, childish, and frankly unpatriotic thing to say then.

It’s a stupid, childish, and frankly unpatriotic thing to say now.

[dba_Fred]

@pedescribe

So…you’re a masochist?

I guess I could be, if you’re the right woman