Hey Hey...there's a new Monkees album coming out!

I know there must be one or two Monkees fans here, so as a public service here’s the single from the new album: She Makes Me Smile

Mike Micky and Peter have been in the studio the last couple of months working on the project with producer Adam Schlesinger (Fountains of Wayne). The cuts include a Nilsson tune and even a song by Noel Gallagher(!?) This one was written by Rivers Cuomo of Weezer–it has the distinctive 60s chiming guitar sound you’d expect from from them–sounds pretty good to me! (and yes, I believe they’re playing their own instruments :smiley: )

Yay! That was plumb nice! A happy song indeed! Long live the sixties (and even the seventies!)

Sounds great!

It’s nice and well done but I wonder if this type of music can work today.

Flashback! It’s like music from a missing episode of their series.

I’m a huge Monkees fan and I’m not all that excited about this… and I’m sure I’ll buy the album anyway.

Michael Nesmith is one of my favorite songwriters. Peter Tork is a fairly good songwriter who, when he’s at his best, has written some truly excellent songs. Micky Dolenz is fair to middling as a songwriter but has turned out a few real gems.

This is essentially a Rhino album released under the Monkees brand, rather than a Monkees album. Just one songwriting contribution from each of them. Sure, outside songwriting has always been a big part of what the Monkees were but give me at least half of the album actually coming from them themselves. Hell, it’s a 13 track record, give me just two songs from each of them- that’s 6 out of 13, less than half- and I’d even allow (encourage?) Micky to work with a co-writer.

Would this make it a better album? Honestly, probably not. But it would be a Monkees album that I would be happy to accept as a Monkees album. Again, yes, there has always been outside songwriting on Monkees albums but at the most recent tour that I saw with Micky, Peter, and Mike (a few years ago) they focused on Headquarters and Pisces, Aquarius, Capricorn, Jones specifically because those were the albums that they really recorded as a band. There was a lot of rhetoric about how that was what they were most proud of.

I haven’t seen any details about who plays on the album- anyone have a good link for that? If all three of them play on almost every track then I might be more forgiving. My suspicion is that Nesmith only contributed his track and that Dolenz and Tork only provide vocals (and Peter probably plays on the song he wrote).
This just serves to remind me that I really wish their 1996 album Justus had been a good album. Nesmith’s most recent solo album at the time had been released only four years earlier and featured some of his very best songwriting and yet he only contributed one new song to Justus (and they inexplicably decided to rerecord “Circle Sky”, which already existed in perfect form- there was nothing to improve). Tork’s songwriting wasn’t his best but it was o.k. The songwriting from Micky and Davy was completely cheesy but their songs were in character for the two of them so it kinda works- but their songs made up way too much of the album.

Nesmith’s work as producer on Justus is terrible, the sound of the record is just bad. Having no outside producer was part of the “Just Us” statement of independence but they could have made that statement just as strongly with an outside producer since they did commit to being the only songwriters and players on the album. If Justus had a better producer, at least three new Nesmith songs and at least one more song by Tork (+ one more lead vocal by Tork), it could have been a good album. I really wanted it to be a good album. I was really disappointed that it wasn’t.

So this new album kinda opens up old wounds for me. Had it really been a new Monkees album and, as such, had it been at least “pretty good”, then my disappointment with Justus would have been smoothed over.
Oh, on another note: I’m not at all on board with any tour being promoted as a Monkees tour unless there are at least three Monkees involved. I saw some Dolenz, Jones, Tork shows and I saw a Dolenz, Tork, Nesmith show. I could accept both of those lineups as being Monkees concerts. This new tour with just Dolenz and Tork? No way. Especially considering Tork does so few lead vocals- that makes this pretty much a Micky Dolenz tour “featuring Peter Tork”. It ain’t a Monkees tour. Hell, even when Micky and Davy toured in the 70s they never had the audacity to call it “The Monkees”, the tour was promoted as “Dolenz, Jones, Boyce & Hart” as was the corresponding studio album.

Will I buy the Bluray boxed set the day it’s released? Abso-fucking-lutely!

Hmmm. Are they so old looking now that they they have to show cartoon images of their younger selves? It did seem like a typical Monkees’ song, and I’m afraid that “kids these days” aren’t going to go for it. Maybe there are enough aging boomers to make this a hit on the mellower radio stations.

Those guys need the money, so if you’re really a Monkees fan you should support them.

Do they? Nesmith surely doesn’t. A quick check indicates that both Dolenz and Tork in decreasing order of wealth are purportedly millionaires, though not extravagantly wealthy ones.

bienville, you ARE a huge Monkees fan, no doubt about it. I’ve always been a Monkees fan, and agree with you to a large degree. Nesmith has been in and out and ambivalent about the group for so long that’s it’s nice to see him involved. It sounds, like usual, that he’s only halfway involved with the album, and won’t join Mickey and Peter on tour. I have to agree with you “that makes this pretty much a Micky Dolenz tour “featuring Peter Tork”. It ain’t a Monkees tour.”

Frankly, without Davy, it isn’t The Monkees. Yeah, he wasn’t a songwriter nor much of a musician, but his vocals are a key aspect of the group. I’d say Peter is the only one you can leave off and still consider them the group.

The linked song actually sounds pretty good, and the lineup of writers for the album is interesting and impressive. This whole thing sounds bittersweet without Davy.

Yeah? Details?

I think the comic book video might be a nod to the Monkees comics from the 60s.

As far as who plays what, there’s a spirited discussion over on the Steve Hoffman forums with a few facts and lots of speculation. I think Andrew Sandoval has been talking about making the album on the Zilch podcast too.

I don’t consider myself a huge fan, but seeing them in 2012* rekindled my interest. Beyond the TV show and the music, I think theirs is a fascinating story of four guys caught up in a showbiz whirlwind. Whatever motivated them to put out some new music, I’m glad it happened.

*They really missed an opportunity by not putting out a DVD of that tour. The energy, performances and crowd reaction were amazing.

For me, the Monkees will always be the four of them. I never cared for Davy but his lead vocals were so much a part of their sound that he needs to be there for the true Monkees to be there.

In fact, all of them brought something special to the group and I harbored resentments against Mike for years because of his disregard for the band.

I still believe there is an extremely valid case for the Rock and Roll HOF, but that ship sailed years ago.

They did a nice job recapturing the sound and style of the Monkees. I enjoyed the new song and the comics with lyrics. clever idea.

“You Bring the Summer” written by Andy Partridge of XTC.

Well, initial evidence suggests that the three of them really did approach this as something they’d do together. I’ve only seen the studio credits for the first two songs released, but it seems that with Micky on vocals both Mike and Peter played instruments and provided backing vocals. I’m a bit happier knowing that.

“She Makes Me Laugh”
Micky Dolenz: Lead Vocals
Michael Nesmith: Backing Vocals & Guitar
Peter Tork: Backing Vocals & Banjo
plus
Adam Schlesinger: Bass
Mike Viola: Danelectro 12-String Guitar
Brian Young: Drums

“You Bring the Summer”
**Micky Dolenz: **Lead Vocals
**Michael Nesmith: **Backing Vocals & Guitar
**Peter Tork: **Backing Vocals & Organ
plus
**Pete Min: **Guitar
**Jody Porter: **Guitar
**Adam Schlesinger: **Bass
**Mike Viola: **Guitar
**Brian Young: **Drums, Percussion
P.S. If you enjoy music and comedy combined, as many Monkees fans seem to, you might recognize the name Mike Viola as the soundtrack supervisor and primary songwriter for Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story. When I saw Dewey Cox play live, it was John C. Reilly performing with Mike Viola’s band backing him.

The XTC vibe is unmistakable, both lyrically and musically.

Viola and Adam Schlesinger also wrote and played some of The Wonders tracks in That Thing That You Do! I’ve seen Mike Viola a couple of times opening for Fountains of Wayne–a very charismatic and funny singer songwriter.

…and the third song has been released:

Me & Magdalena
Mike Nesmith on lead vocals.
Written by Ben Gibbard of Death Cab for Cutie.

The album comes out this Friday.

Micky and Mike sound pretty good.

I pre-ordered the album (in both downloadable and CD form) and I like the songs released so far—especially the first two.

I don’t know how “big” a Monkees fan I am, but I have all their 11 original albums on vinyl and pretty much everything that’s out on CD, including the compilations and re-releases, and I have the DVD box set of the TV show.

I agree that Justus is not really listenable. But I for one am not keenly missing Davy for this reunion. His songs are routinely the ones I skip when listening, and plus he was kind of a dick.

I was planning to see the show tomorrow, but my available funds got eaten by a plumbing issue.

I just listened to the Good Times album twice through. While not earth-shattering, it is a very pleasant, listenable album. The only real dud is the Peter Tork penned and sung “Little Girl”, which should have been left off. On the other hand, it is very nice to hear Davy Jones singing on “Love To Love”, an old Neil Diamond song recorded in 1967 and 2016.

You can listen to the entire album on Spotify and it’s well worth the listen for Monkees fans, as well as fans of XTC, Weezer, Fountains of Wayne and Oasis. For background, Wikipedia has a nice page on the new album at Good Times - Wikipedia!