Well, I don’t believe in any supernatural things either. OTOH, when some religiously frenzied bastard decides to kill a few people in the name of his god you really can’t prove god didn’t tell him to do it. The murderer may actually believe it.
As far as the OP’s old testament type curse, I thought it was over the top and I don’t really agree with it anyway.
I just get irritated when someone trots out the mantra of: “not every single person in group X did something bad so you can’t say group X is bad.” I disagree intensely with that sentiment. Some groups are bad (defined as violent, intolerant, xenophobic, etc) and when someone voluntarily associates themselves with that group then they are also ‘bad.’ Nor do I see why religions should be exempt from criticism. Official teachings are one thing but when people claim your faith and commit atrocities in the name of that faith, then that religion should be looked at very carefully, maybe even God forbid! reformed.
Whoa guy!
I believe you just attributed something to me that I never said and don’t even particularly agree with. I don’t like any religion and don’t cut them any slack but I don’t go out of my way to be grossly or gratuitously insulting either.
The group the OP is talking about is Muslims. Are they bad? We’re not debating whether a group can be all good or bad, just that the particular group he’s slagging, isn’t a bad group.
-------> Beheading hostages & blowing up innocent faceless crowds of people with cruisemissles from 100 miles away is really, really, bad. Both are not going to win any “hearts and minds”, so STOP FUCKING DOING IT YOU MORONS!
I love the username by the way. Please tell me how you came up with that some day.
I’m not so sure about whether those fuckheads represent Islam or not. What kind of Islam? It isn’t really a monolithic entity you know. If you are talking about the Wahabbis in KSA or the ones in Pakistan that are more-or-less indistinguishable then I believe they do represent Islam. The Pakistani and SA varieties are just as valid as any other branch, they have their own Islamic scholars and believe they are following god’s will just as much as the sufis or any other sect. It would be presumptuous (to say the least!) of me to tell them they are misinterpreting their own holy book.
Sure, but there are frenzied bastards being told to do things by space aliens, next-door neighbours’ dogs, etc. Are we to condemn pet owners and little green men too?
I agree that nutters are being told to do things by all kinds of random creatures and objects. The nut-cases usually don’t organize into groups with the express intent of killing innocent people in large quantities though. As far as the LGMs go, yes, lets condemn them.
Urgh! What, you can’t curse someone who decapitates a man with a blunt knife and record it on a snuff movie for future mastrubation pleasures without being called a bigot? I just called the stupid bitch cutting in front of me something worse. Oh oy! How bad am I?!
I think it’s pretty obvious Dirk Gently is talking about the extremists Moslems who scream Allah Akbar and all that shit while torturing some poor sod to dead - and not all Moslems in general.
Oh but it is. The God of fascistic Moslems. You on the other hand are insulting all peace loving Moslems by insinuating the sick religion and perverted god of those murdering bastards is the same as theirs.
I think it is important to recognise that the insurgents in Iraq are not targetting people based on their religion. They are targetting what they perceive to be invaders of their country and the government installed by those invaders. In practical terms they are killing many more *Moslem * Iraqis than Westerners. Of course when it comes to hostages, Westerners are worth much more to them than a fellow Iraqi. Which reflects our own valuation.