I like the mormons because every time you see an elder going by on a bike, you can yell: “Hey, Elder!” and he’ll give you a big smile and a wave. Makes my day, I tell 'ya.
I dislike them for the few I know personally who continually try to push their views on me, when in fact these individuals are huge hypocrites and break every major rule of their faith on a regular basis. I realize that these individuals are not very good (or accurate) ambassadors of their religion.
Hey dangermom, I’ll take some chocolate over here!
And I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned yet, but another really good movie about a new missionary braving the dangers of L.A.: ORGAZMO, made by Matt Stone and Trey Parker (creators of South Park, if that gives you any indication. Your other clue is that Ron Jeremy stars in it). Some favorite quotes:
“Jesus and I love you, Joe.”
“You will never get me, a#* f$*# twins!”
“I dont want to sound like a queer or nothing, but I think I want to make love with you tonight.”
“O-Gaz-Mo!” (in broken Japanese)
Ah yes, a true classic. Impossible to find at Blockbuster, but likely on the shelves of that little local hole-in-the-wall one-day rental place. Heehee, I know what I’m watching tonight!
I am “implying” that the Mormons can believe whatever bass-ackwards they want about homosexuality or anything else but their practice of funneling millions of tax-exempt dollars into campaigns across the country to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else disqualifies them from being “nice people.” I don’t think bigots and people who support bigotry are “nice.”
I dunno here … it seems to me that the Golden Rule applies whenever anyone comes to your door - treat them as you would like to be treated - period.
Then again, our family is Seventh Day Adventist and many of you probably look at us in the same light as JW and Mormons - a little bit odd since our Sabbath is observed on Saturday rather than Sunday
We’ve had JW and Mormons come to our door and have never found them to be rude or pushy. I do not allow anyone inside our home if Mr. Adoptamom is not at home, but welcome folks on a mission if he is. I’m sure they’d like a chance to cool off, have a drink of water and offer of the restroom. Rather than debate, argue or be rude to them, we’ve found that clearly stating we are not interested and offering them refreshment to be a welcome relief.
What may your definition of a bigot be? What is your definition of a nice person?
Plus, I do not see the Church’s support for certain campaigns to be necessarily their attempt of enforcing their religious views. Views on morality, certainly, but not necessarily religious views. Homosexuality has nothing to do with religion, really, but morals, even though morals are influenced by religion.
Look at it the other way - they feel people, whose values are misguided and that threaten to tear apart society, are forcing their erroneous views on all people. Both sides feel the other side is imposing on them - and both are imposing their beliefs on each other, neither being better or worse than the other.
Besides, how would this be different from the Roman Catholic Church’s opposition to abortion, or liberal Churches’ support for gay and women’s rights? How about Muslim charities and religious foundations/organizations sending money to mujahideen across the seas? What about synagogues sending money to programs in Israel? All religious institutions get involved in politics and events because what happens in the world out there effects them. Religious organizations - churches, mosques, synagogues, mandirs, gurudwaras, agiaries, groves, covens, etc. - have historically played a role in issues regarding morals. They command a lot of resources and they know it.
I see each side spewing hatred (strident opposition, at the very least) for the other side, which is a shame on both. Liberals versus conservatives, Democrats versus Republicans. I wonder if they know how funny they look attacking the other side while attempting to look righteous, while it’s obvious they’re no more righteous than their target.
I have nothing of value to contribute to this topic. I was just wondering where in this forum or another forum, a person who has no interest in becoming mormon but has read a significant amount of mormon literature, could discuss, in a respectfull way, the mormon belief structure? Again, please pardon the interruption, and thank you in advance for any help or guidance you choose to provide.
A bigot is, among other things, a person who is biased against others and hides behind “religion” as an excuse. A nice person is, among other things, someone who may be fundamentally opposed to something on religious grounds but who doesn’t seek to impose their religious views on others by force of law.
Oh please. You honestly would try to claim that the LDS church isn’t motivated by religion?
Well, no, because SSM would do harm to no one, whereas the denial of SSM does harm to many.
And if they engage in political activities they should lose their tax-exempt status. LDS and anyone else is welcome to campaign for or against any political thing it wants but the consequence of participating in those campaigns ought to be the loss of its special rights. Want to spend the money you collect from your faithful on political campaigns? No problem, you can spend every dime, after you pay your taxes on it.
All I said was that I don’t consider Mormons to be nice regarding gay people. You choose to interpret that as “hatred,” that’s your damage, not mine.
I am not a moderator here (and I don’t think they pay enough that I’d want to be one, if the job was offered) but, unless I’m being hugely whooshed here…
For answers to a specific, factual question, ya want GQ (General Questions)
If you’re lookin’ to talk the pros and cons of the faith in general, GD (Great Debates) is more the destination you’ve got in mind.
(And there’s a sticky thread or two in ATMB that generally always have the answers to questions o’ this sort. Never hurts to look there.)
Ah, well, then - I had misunderstood what you said. Sorry, my bad. I would suppose gay people would not find the LDS to be very accepting, and that is a fair assessment.
