Hey you racist "realists"

If you don’t know who Eminem is, then I decline to take on the project of describing “thug style of dress” for you. I lack the expertise as well as the time that this would require. Look it up on the internet.

It would take a long time to describe how a thug dresses? It takes EXPERTISE to describe how a thug dresses? Are you sure you know how a thug dresses?

It would take a long time to explain anything about American culture to someone who is so out of touch with it that they don’t know who Eminem is. Are you from another country? Do you know who Joe Biden is? More Americans probably know Eminem.

Yes.

Yes, youth fashion has progressed since the 80’s. I can assure you real life Cosby kids are out here ‘dressed like thugs’ too. IOW: dressing in the casual fashion common to their age group.

I know who Eminem is. I’ve never seen the movie. You pointed me to a specific movie, claimed it was obvious how a thug dresses, claim you know precisely how a thug dresses, and yet you cannot even describe how a thug dresses.

If someone mugged you and the police said, “Can you describe the person who mugged you?” would you say, “He was dressed like a thug!” and that’s it? They would understand exactly what you meant, with no other effort than that? You just have to say “dressed like a thug” and everyone knows precisely what you mean? Everyone except me, that is?

No, I’m saying that Eminem’s clothes in 8 mile are not thug-like clothes. Your definition of thug clothes seems off, and you don’t seem willing to get into it.

No I don’t… but most people who talk, dress, and/or act like Eminem’s character in 8-mile are regular kids and not thugs. Teens from Detroit tend to dress, talk, and act like Detroit teens- most of them, white or black, are not thugs. Chicago teens, black and white, tend to dress, talk, and act like Chicago teens- and most are not thugs. Same with Brooklyn teens, New Orleans teens… you get the picture.

Your thug-detector seems like it’s crapped out and needs to be recalibrated… or maybe even just scrapped.

It’s quite good. You should check it out.

In the movie, Eminem dressed like Eminem. He’s basically playing himself. That should solve your misunderstanding. He’s not playing Batman or anything.

Cannot is different than won’t.

No. I’d elaborate. But where I to be mugged by someone dressed like a thug and I told the police so, they’d know what I meant by it, yes. Just as you do now.

You know exactly what I mean. You are just pretending not to so you can make a point.

Eminem in 8 Mile.

Based on that description, some other potential thugs

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No, I don’t know what you mean. Because you refuse to say. Just describe the mode of dress. I know you said this required expertise, but I have faith in you.

I know who Eminem is by name. I don’t have posters of him on my wall. I don’t know how he dresses. I’ve heard his music. Strangely, hearing his music does not make me able to immediately know what he looks like. (I do think I could identify him in a picture, though.)

Why are you afraid of providing a description or linking to a specific picture? What’s up with that? Like I said, act like I’m from another country and just link or describe. You can do it!

Well, now I get it. Those people are terrifying!

And since I was wearing a hoodie last night, I’m terrified to be alone with me.

The funny thing is I might have thought I knew what you meant, but it’s not at all like Eminem dresses. Why the refusal to be specific?

OMG, you owe me a coke-free keyboard! :smiley:

I’m not interested in feeding your recreational outrage. Giving you that much ammo to shoot into the air in glee would be like feeding so much candy to a toddler that it makes him sick.

You’re going to have to get your fix from somebody else. Don’t worry, someone will probably come along soon to give you what you seek.

Everyone knows what we’re talking about here, but any specifics that I give just give you a chance to point out some example in mockery. People are already doing it with hoodies even thought I haven’t said anything about them.

This is why you are all so fixated on clothing when it’s only one of three things that I mentioned. Eminem isn’t a typical thug in Eight Mile simply because of how he dressed. It was also how he acted. How he spoke. How he carried himself. His background and his upbringing (of both the character and the actor) play into this. It’s not as simple as “hoodie = thug” as you all well know.

So, it’s the way Eminem dressed in 8 Mile but not the hoodie.

Can you narrow it down to a particular area of the body?

Also, please list his crimes in the movie, since Eminem in 8 Mile = thug= thief.

Yes, you have mentioned speech and acting which I’m assuming is a catch-all for posture and attitude. However, when you deign to give examples, it’s a lawyer in sweatpants and someone in thug clothing (which you refuse to describe) whom you label a thief. Nothing about bearing or dialects.

There is nothing moronic about expecting members of society to come up to a reasonable and respectful way of presenting themselves to their fellow citizens. To think otherwise is what is moronic.

Saggy, giant-sized crappy looking sweats like the kid in the video is wearing do look thuggy. It doesn’t matter who is wearing them, girls, boys, white kids, black kids, or where I’m from, Native kids. There is nothing racist inherent in decrying crappy personal style. Several of us have made a clear point, over several different posts that it’s not “black kids wearing saggy clothes” it’s the clothes themselves that are thuggy.

Funnily enough, I went to HuffPo and they had an article on the side about Eminem possibly reuniting with his ex wife. It included a picture of Eminem in a pretty thuggish hat and a jacket. (I found a bigger picture of the one they were showing on HuffPo.)

Now I’m afraid this guy might be coming for me.

Where you going for the trifecta of logical fallacies in only one sentence? Sorry to disappoint you, but all I see there is Straw Man and Fallacy of the Single Cause.

Why? What makes them “thuggy”?

In another thread, you said that a young woman who punched a man shouldn’t be viewed as violent and aggressive, but now that same young woman, if dressed in loose clothing, would be “thuggy”?