If you keep waiting to cast your vote for the perfect candidate, you will never vote. Nope, Hillary isn’t perfect. She is, however, the most vilified candidate in the modern era, with pretty much the least justification. The vast majority of it is manufactured bullshit, simple kneejerk anti-Democrat dogma that the rubes will buy into without ever checking into the facts.
Trump, on the other hand, is objectively the worst presidential candidate in history, and would be the worst President, and the other two have zero chance of winning. Makes for a pretty clear-cut choice to me.
I don’t think anyone supports anyone this year, except the third parties. And probably most people would go third party, if they weren’t being shamed for it.
I disagree. There are plenty of Hillary Clinton supporters, who enthusiastically support her, right here on this message board.
I preferred her over Obama back in 2008, because I didn’t like what he was saying about healthcare reform. Of course, when it came time to pass something, Clinton was right (he was claiming during the campaign that he wouldn’t include the mandate to purchase, which is clearly unworkable). I’m mostly happy with his performance, and I’m very happy that Clinton is back.
No! A special prosecutor, and a dedicated team of 20, whose sole job is to investigate Hilary from now until the end of 2024! Non-stop investigations on every facet of everything she has ever done or ever will do!
Unacceptable. We will not limit the scope of this investigation merely to things that actually happened. We must investigate every accusation made against Clinton regardless of whether or not the event in question actually occurred.
Clinton supports TPP. She has been a free trader her entire political career. Anyone who thinks she is actually opposed to TPP should not vote, they are too uninformed.
That was an embarrassing post. Larry Summers and Paul Krugman vary from luke warm to narrowly against the TPP, because it is mostly not a trade deal. It’s an international property deal. If Clinton says she wants the TPP to be improved, she’s basically taking the position of Larry Summers. Maybe: they might have different problems with it.
Krugman: [INDENT][INDENT] In any case, the Pacific trade deal isn’t really about trade. Some already low tariffs would come down, but the main thrust of the proposed deal involves strengthening intellectual property rights — things like drug patents and movie copyrights — and changing the way companies and countries settle disputes. And it’s by no means clear that either of those changes is good for America.
On intellectual property: patents and copyrights are how we reward innovation. But do we need to increase those rewards at consumers’ expense? Big Pharma and Hollywood think so, but you can also see why, for example, Doctors Without Borders is worried that the deal would make medicines unaffordable in developing countries. That’s a serious concern, and it’s one that the pact’s supporters haven’t addressed in any satisfying way.
Which doesn’t change the fact that Clinton supported TPP until she faced a primary challenge. She supported NAFTA until she faced a primary challenge in 2008.
The point is the TPP isn’t primarily a free trade deal. It’s an intellectual property deal. And calling “Running for President” a “Primary challenge” is a little odd. It’s entirely unremarkable that any politician would want to critique a complicated international economic treaty, especially during a campaign. Painting it as something insidious is silly.
Presidents from the 19th century didn’t have access to nuclear codes. So that counts out all but Thurmond. And he ran as a 3rd party regional candidate in 1948, never having a shot at the Presidency.
There are all manner of 3rd party candidates who might be worse than Trump. Gus Hall of the Communist Party, various Libertarian freaks (though not this year), and cranks obtaining maybe a couple of thousand votes nationwide. Then there are Trump clones from the Constitutional Party or fellow Putin admirers such as Jill Stein of the Greens. But I don’t think that Johnny Ace was referring to these wannabees.
It’s not a critique, she says flatly that she’s against it. As anyone who has watched the last oh, 10 Presidential campaigns would know, Presidents never back out of already signed free trade deals, or signed treaties in general. That’s why Kyoto was such a shock, and that one was rejected unanimously in the Senate first.
The odds of Clinton being sincere about TPP are miniscule. Any President’s credibility with international leaders would be shot if they backed out of TPP or just never submitted it. And that means a lot more to people like Hillary Clinton than credibility with voters. You can be assured that much as Wall Street leaders are being assured she’s just campaigning, so are Asian leaders.
I actually expected somebody to come up with David Dukes himself, just to be funny. But you are correct, I didn’t mean any yank and crank that decides to file a few papers with the government. Trump has a legitimate chance to drive the country into the ground.