And it’s the biggest thing you have, after literally decades and literally tens of millions spent on finding something. And you have to look at it at a particular angle in the sun even to justify that as a true statement.
Again, whose character is really being revealed here?
3.4 points is not a solid enough lead two months out to say Trump needs a miracle. 28% change of winning equates to being down three run in the 7th inning, or 7 points down halfway through the 4th quarter. Trump just needs a good debate performance. And since nearly every cycle Democrats’ confident predictions of their guy dominating our guy never comes true, it’s not a Hail Mary.
Because there is tons of real shit you can say about Trump, no matter how much you insist “Hillary should come clean about all the evil things we’ve made up about her” is a dumb ass idea.
You support the party that defined itself by nominating him. It isn’t about Trump personally, it’s about your party, and those who support it, and what it says about *their *character. A steady stream of “But Hillary” in response reveals character too.
It’s all made up, fine. Now convince the public of that. THe people she’s hired to do that for her don’t have much to work with.
*Now *who’s calling the people stupid? You, that’s who.
Don’t even lecture Republicans about character, members of the party that thinks it’s okay to lie to appease red state voters in order to win. On another thread we’ve got people actually saying they want a President to lie about their faith.
The GOP is the party of markets and small government and there are a lot of good people in it. And also a lot of bad. But one thing we all have in common is that what they say they believe, we take it at face value. If you’re assuming your candidate is lying then you already have your reason to not vote for him or her.
I think the people have a pretty accurate view of both candidates, actually. You’re the one who thinks the public is wrong about one of them.
The one who’s leading pretty comfortably? No, the believers in the falsehoods and evidenceless insinuations your party has been spreading for decades are in the minority, even though it’s a disappointingly large one.
The question you keep ducking is why *you *continue to be one of them.
You’re going to get lectured about evidence as long as you continue to ignore it and manufacture your own.
Yet you nominated Trump. I’ll go with the evidence, thanks.
So you’re calling your own party’s membership stupid now. Good one.
She leads because right now the public prefers dishonesty to just plain unfit.
But the public knows who she is. Only a small minority consider her honest. There’s nothing about her or Trump’s numbers on any issue or personality trait that don’t make sense.
Indeed, and one can make an effort to see how wrong they are.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/lists/people/comparing-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-truth-o-met/
According to Politifact Trump has reach for statements that are either mostly false, false or pants on fire lies a total of 170 times.
Clinton has done so 68 times, but specifically in the category of “Pants on fire” she only got 6 while Trump has 44.
Your argument is reduced to one of demanding purity. It is a very silly one.
Plain unfit is not equal to dishonest. It covers so much more. We all expect a certain level of dishonest in any politician.
Which is why the fact Clinton is dishonest should not need to be rebutted.
Gigo, the people are right, and citing Politifact in ways Politifact never intended to “prove” the public wrong is the type of argument that only avoids getting laughed off this board because of the liberal bias here.
Politifact put up that page, **Gigo **didn’t create it.
She’s the least dishonest candidate in the race. The people didn’t chose dishonest over unfit, they chose fit and honest over unfit and dishonest.
Speaking of unfit, we can see it also with the company Trump keeps, or as it is called nowadays: Personnel is Policy.
Getting support and staff that have in their past convictions of using racial profiling (Arpaio), abusing women (Ailes), spreading lies with their media group (Ailes and the Breitbart staff), denying science and accelerating the harm of many with climate change deniers as his energy policy people does not gives us any good reasons to support Trump to become the next president.
Aside: I think I remember the cartoon that quote comes from, its like a giant equation with one step of the equation being a circle with that in it. New Yorker, I think. Love to have it, do you know? Like one scientist is saying something like “That part there is bit vague”…
The other one I’m looking for forever is from Playboy, when I found the old man’s stash. Two zen monks sitting in meditation and one says to the other “Pure existence is such a gas I can hardly stand it!”
/Aside
Trump is much more dishonest than her.
Since most Republicans are depending on people that are ignorant, no. Many are not right. Most of the media are failing to take the big liar to task. Concentrating on Hillary’s “dishonesty” when the issue was already dealt with and no crime was found while ignoring what Trump does is a big failure to educate the public.
Among the failures right now is how Trump has not been taken to task much about not releasing his taxes, it seems that he is lying even about the reasons why he is not releasing them. Even Nixon did release them while he was audited back then and as it typically happens with Trump: there seems to be no evidence that trump is being audited as he claims.
https://thinkprogress.org/the-big-lie-about-donald-trumps-tax-returns-585aa23bf529#.az5d1dwjz
:rolleyes:
Most of the public are ok, they are still more in favor of Clinton anyhow. It is you who is wrong. but this is typical with most of your points.
