That was great.
Clinton needs to do more stuff like this, humanize her a bit. Of course I don’t believe for a second that she didn’t know the entire script in advance and approve it.
A super interesting read about how the Hillary campaign shifted starting in May to appeal more to moderate Republicans, after previously tarring Republicans in general as having created Trump, and now reaping the whirlwind: How A Decision In May Changed The General Election
I can see how this could be frustrating for some at the DNC who wanted to really bury the GOP brand and help downballot races. But endorsements like that Cincinnati Enquirer one probably wouldn’t have happened if she kept on that tack, and who knows how many moderate, Main Street type Republicans would have been pushed into Trump’s arms.
What actually frustrates me the most is learning that their research showed that calling Trump a failed businessman was not working because people just weren’t buying it, so instead they shifted to the Romney approach of saying his alleged success was built on screwing the little guy. If that’s what the research shows, then fine: I guess it’s what they’ve got to do. But even leaving aside political advantage, I sure wish the other approach (which is true!) were viable, because I just really want to have Trump’s most important possession (the image of success) taken away from him.
I couldn’t agree more. I keep hoping to see TV ads showing the ordinary-Joe small business people whom Trump has screwed over the years, sadly and heart-rendingly talking right into the camera about what a jerk and ripoff artist he is. That could move the polls even more in Hillary’s direction.
Tom and I have discussed things. We have decided this thread is approaching the end of its natural lifespan.
It will be closed on the 30th and replaced with a ‘Stretch Run’ thread. It’s our hope that it will be friendlier for new people to jump on board than a thread with such a deep history.
Re: Tonight’s debate. Part of me wouldn’t begrudge Hillary if she came out with “All right, motherfuckers-- eight years ago? I get it. Barack Obama was awesome. Inspirational, amazing campaigner, and he’s gotten shit done in the time since. Pretty great guy all-around. But fucking-a, people. Donald Fucking Trump? A bigoted conman ballbag with no real policies to speak of? Are you really putting this mook a cunt-hair away from Oval Office? Really?! How is this even a motherfuckin’ race? I mean, really. Really? Are. You. Fucking. Serious?”
But I know, I know. You can’t say “cunt-hair” on network television.
When I hear the clips on the radio, they’re awful. If they’re not introduced as a comedy sketch, you think it’s an actual interview. It must be painful to watch.
I think to find it funny you have to be a fan of sarcasm. Which, interestingly, is the form of humor which is most tied to intelligence and creativity.
Oh, I am sooo sure of that!
Yeah, I guess if you didn’t recognize Zach as a comedian who starred in the biggest R-rated comedy movies ever, you could be confused.
Yep, he cashed those checks. Probably why he doesn’t shave.
Pretty sure our friend PCP is familiar with the concept of “a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often amusing as a result.”
The guy IS rich and famous, calling him a failed businessman was never going to work. As far as most of America is concerned he has reached the pinnacle of success. Showing how he got there by screwing the little guy is much more effective than trying to convince people that a guy that is basically a caricature of a rich guy is actually a failure.
This would be a disastrous plan. It would show HRC as entitled, arrogant, as-foul-mouthed-as-Trump, and reinforce all sorts of negative stereotypes about overbearing women. It’d be a PoliSci 101 lesson on how to throw away an election for decades to come.
Gee, ya think?
It was a joke.
Oh behave!
(In the voice of Austin Powers so this is not an attack but a comedic cultural reference just in case the higher powers are in a bad mood.) 
Yes, when I think of comedy, Hillary Clinton comes to mind. Even her supporters don’t want her to do comedy. Re: Zingers thread.
No kidding. When I saw people getting into a circle jerk of “oh, I suspect he’s only worth a few hundred million” I really wondered what the hell they thought that was going to do.
Hillary: “Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?”
Nice dislike bar.
I’m not sure the opinion of internet trolls is all that useful.