If they feel cheated, maybe.
If this was a FAIR fight and Biden or whoever won fair, and won on their own merits, the 'Bernie Bros" might be more inclined to vote.
If you make it seem like their vote doesn’t matter then they might not.
Your post isn’t helping to refute the accusations.
I addressed this in my last post. Just read that. Bernie supporters were fine until all this crap was slung against him.
I voted Hillary… We’re not all monoliths voters. Yes some people might have not voted for Hillary but I did.
Hillary saying that she might not support Bernie now if he were to become candidate. What’s that shit?
I don’t need to refute those accusations, go look up old videos of him talking about women being president. And being black in America. Don’t be silly.
Actually both Biden & Sanders should do much better than Hillary in the rust belt. So they both have a good chance of beating Trump. I think Warren is less likely to improve much in the rust belt.
Buttigieg you would think would do OK in the rust belt but there seems to be a lot of polls showing him doing poorly with African-Americans, not that they’ll vote Trump, just that they won’t show up to vote in the same numbers as they would for others and especially Biden. Sanders is polling really well with young voters.
Seemed like the Republicans loved the idea of getting Hillary last time too. So hard to say.
The people who would view this rejection of Bernie as a plus are the already probably voting for him, so I think it will mostly be a wash as far as the primary goes. The problem is that this reinforces the persecution complex exhibited by many of his supporters, making it more likely that they will decide to take their ball and go home when he loses the primary resulting in 4 more years of Trump.
I have the greatest respect for Hillary, I voted for her in 2008 and 2016. If she didn’t have all the baggage heaped on her from 27 years of Republican mud slinging I would prefer her to any of the current crop of Democratic candidates. But now that she’s lost, she seriously needs to fade gracefully into the background and take up oil water color painting or something.
I remember Bernie taking for-fucking-ever to end his campaign and endorse Hillary, long after Hillary had clinched the nomination.
Yes, I’m still bitter.
Because they thought Bernie was yesterday’s news and Warren was the real threat, so they threw shit at her first.
Btw… Liz Warren is still my second choice.
They probably shouldn’t be throwing shit.
In the end, Biden probably has the easiest path to being President. He probably should have run last time in fact. I’m not a fan, but he has a really good chance of beating Trump. Sanders has some issues that could hurt and he has the second best chance of beating Trump today at least.
So as the nomination will probably be decided before the New Jersey Primary, I’ll put out signs and campaign for whoever gets the nom as decided by other states.
My second choice seems to change from day to day. Maryland’s primary isn’t until April 28, so it’s not like I expect it to matter.
If we get past Super Tuesday and the situation is still fluid, well, I’ll deal with it then.
This is coming from your years of experience as a campaign manager? "Never insult your opponent " is your professional moto?
I don’t know. I don’t mind too much if I someone else wins I just want Trump out.
as soon as people start attacking Bernie and his supporters they’re going to get defensive because Bernie is quite honestly a great candidate.
“Bernie Bros” is offensive to women as if they don’t have their own agency… and simply can’t like Bernie on their own.
I’m sick of people reducing us to Trump supporter like levels, their racist and sexist and we are not.
Stop patronizing us. Stop dismissing us. And stop talking down to us. You’ll find where much nicer when you’re nicer to us.
I think things were going well until s*** started going down. When has Sanders PURPOSLEY thrown s***?
When he said I’m sick of the damn emails?
She didn’t lose. Three million more people voted for her than for fuckface. She was more popular than fuckface in the election. She got more votes than he did in the election. She lost the presidency but not the election.
She lost, she lost as she lost states that she should have won. The goddamn electoral college is what mattered and she did not win it. She lost it more than Gore lost it. There is no reason to bother raising it in a thread like this. Save it for crazy Trump supporters that want to pretend he won the popular vote.
I hate the electoral college, I hate that a Wyoming vote is worth something like 7 New Jersey votes. It is a fucked up system where rural states are already over-powered via Congress. We should have a popular vote, but we don’t.
Sometimes it feels like they ran two different races. Clinton ran a spectacular campaign for the DNC nomination, in that she realized early on all of the checkboxes she’d need to tick (senate, SoS) and got the DNC on her side early. Bernie’s plan of not really being a Democrat and openly mocking the Democratic establishment was indeed a pretty poor strategy in retrospect.
I find it unsurprising that the same Clinton who tried to lock up the nomination before the primary even started and then got mad at Bernie for not falling in line with the DNC’s non-democratic decision continues to badmouth Bernie. Truly unsurprising.
“Nobody likes Bernie” said the woman who lost a popularity contest to Donald Trump :smack:
Attn. Hillary,
You are a loathsome Wall Street Reptile who never met a war you didn’t like. Fuck off back into the woods with your rapey husband and never, ever come back.
Thanks
I think this is normally accurate, but in this specific case I think a very significant chunk of Bernie supporters (and potential Bernie supporters) are fueled by a hatred of Hillary Clinton and the political establishment in general. If that’s true, and if that chunk is more significant than Bernie supporters (and potential Bernie supporters) who really like and value Hillary’s opinion (as I think it is), then I think this kind of criticism from Hillary is a net positive for Bernie.
But this is all just, essentially, political gossiping. Who the hell knows? I’m guessing, based on my priors. Stuff like this is nearly impossible to predict with anything approaching certainty. Kind of like arguing which team will win a given football game. It’s barely more than a wild guess.
Ugh. Stories like this reveal how the Democrats don’t really give a damn about the wellness of our country. They’re selfishly concerned for their own money and prestige. The only thing the D candidates should be saying about one another is (some version of); “While I have a much better plan and would be a much better president than anyone else, my (Democratic) opponent –if elected- would also be a great representative and leader of our nation”.