Hip hop enthusiasts: recommend me some really CLEVER rap.

Lately I’ve been enjoying the Epic Rap Battles of History series on YouTube. A lot of it is so-so, but some of the episodes are extraordinarily clever.

I’m two-clicking a link to Thor vs. Zeus as a representative example of what I’ve found entertaining. The lyrics are pretty salty so don’t play it at work.

This is a fun rap, imo, because the puns are clever and a lot the references require a decent grounding in the subject matter to fully appreciate. Other raps I’ve enjoyed in the series are Shaka Zulu vs. Julius Caesar and Isaac Newton (played by Weird Al!) vs. Bill Nye.

Anyway, I know that hip hop runs as wide a gamut, quality-wise, as any other form of entertainment. I’m looking for examples of artists whose lyrics and subject matter are going to engage my brain in a positive way. Profanity is fine when it’s going somewhere, and endless repetition bores me quickly.

Chamillionaire’s “Hip Hop Police” really is fun, especially with the video, I thought. Same with Slick Rick’s “Children’s Story” (again, with the video). The two songs are somewhat related (and both feature Slick Rick).

Del the Funky Homosapien and collaborators’ Deltron 3030 is a rap space opera concept album, set in 3030AD. It’s maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but it is good.

It’s worth pointing out (since I wasn’t clear) that I’m not solely interested in humorous stuff. Anything that makes particularly good use of language would be cool to listen to.

I hate Eminem as a person, but “Without Me” is hella clever.

For reggae-flavored rap, try Shaggy. This sort of music normally isn’t my thing but I like Back in the Days.

I have always really loved FHHoff the RJD2 album Dead Ringer.

I also love the whole collaboration with Madlib and MF Doom Madvillain.

In fact almost anything MadLib did was great. MF Doom was a bit more hit and miss.

I will also second Del Tha Funky Homosapian in general and Deltron 3030 in particular.

I can post a ton more, but I don’t want to overwhelm the thread.

I find Eminem particularly clever when he’s being the playfull over the top degenerate (I suppose what he calls his “Slim Shady” persona).
The OP might also consider Macklemore & Ryan Lewis

Possibly Wu Tang Clan

Some Wu Tang for sure. ODB was hilarious and Ghost Face Killer all kinds of a genius. Wu is great, but not everyone is “clever”.

Edit: Kendrick Lamar isn’t clever on the face, but what he does with the rhythm and rhyme in his lyrics is astounding. Check out backseat freestyle (no link I’m on my phone) but it’s crazy.

I will pass on what I myself learned about here on the Dope. This is mind-melting, highly creative and intelligent stuff: Death Grips!

Chino XL is your man. Here’s “Wordsmith.”

Maybe check out Kyprios?

It makes me sad that this is labeled old school. But Commonis great. Extended metaphor song.

I think Childish Gambino’s (aka Donald Glover) album *Culdesac *was very good, rhyme-wise. His other albums since have been real snooze-fests but that one was tight.

Kendrick Lamar.

Erykah Badu, Common, Nas, J. Cole sometimes, Mos Def

Oh, and Talib Quali. Reflections eternal is the album you want. Also Blackstar where he teamed up with Mos Def. OutKast also has neat stuff going on in their middle albums. Stankonia has the hits, but it’s hard to go wrong. Big Boi blows my mind.

Kool Keith - Rockets On The Battlefield

Mr. Lif - Home of the Brave

The smash Broadway show Hamilton by Lin-Manuel Miranda is celebrated because his raps are complex, cover a lot of historical ground accurately and fun.

I came here to recommend Hamilton. Which NPR had before the Original Cast Recording’s release; I think it’s now on Spotify.

Yes, excellent use of Rap & Hip Hop–hear Hamilton & Jefferson battle out matters of public policy. Lin-Manuel Miranda also shows his knowledge of R&B, Mainstream Broadway & a touch of British Pop. The last for George III…

I’ll be investigating the other options on this thread. Not wishing to be a racist old fogey, I’d worked at developing an intellectual understanding of these new genres. Now I realize they can be really good…

(Back in 2009, the author presented his first “sketch” on the subject at a White House poetry jam.)