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I went to see male strippers once and I didn’t feel very good about it. I think they are being objectified, too. Maybe the guys absolutely love it and would dance for free in front of hooting women, but I didn’t like how it made me feel - like I was doing something less than honourable. Don’t get me wrong; I don’t think I’m some kind of saint or something, but my integrity is very important to me.

And don’t even get me started on professional athletes. :slight_smile:

Why is it that guy’s always say this and women don’t? I’m not gay so dancing in front of gay men wouldn’t be fun for me. Are all women dancers gay? Or is it that women who work as dancers don’t like what they do while a guy might like it? Different standards and expectations for different sexes here? Is this an actual human physical thing, or just a societal expectation? Do women look at sex differently because sex for them is, in fact, different, or does society expect them to act a certain way and by not doing so they feel exploited and objectified?

Okay, so the guys stripping at gay clubs. Exploited? Does it make a difference if the dancers themselves are gay?

Sounds to me like the problem is with you, and not with the stripping. I don’t mean that judgmentally: there’s no obligation to like it, of course. But it seems like you’re trying to justify a personal dislike by turning it into a moral issue, when you don’t need to do anything more than not like it and not participate in it.

BTW, I’m asking the question because I want to know. I’m not arguing for a particular position. It just seems odd that to me that dancing on a stage for larger amounts of money than cashiering at the local ‘choke and puke’ is somehow more demeaning and why it is that way.

I don’t know why they say it. Maybe it’s because the only side of it they see is the pretty bodies, smiling faces, and fistfuls of cash. It looks appealing and easy and fun–they don’t really ever see the other side of it.

Not all women who dance are gay, but most of them are not doing it because they are into the guys. They may be into the attention and the cash, but the guys aren’t making them horny.

I think a lot of men who dance for men are exploited, ditto prostitution. You’ll probably find a lot of drug usage there, as you would among female dancers.

I’ve had this conversation with a friend of mine. He’s always taking these women out, wanting to woo them into a sexual relationship. He says, “I am there for them in every way, why is it so hard for them to be there for what I need?” What he needs is sex, and he doesn’t get that a woman can’t just make herself get into it if she’s not into it. He thinks they should sacrifice and just lay there for 10 min. once in a while. He doesn’t think it’s a big deal. This guy isn’t an asshole, he’s just a really awkward guy who doesn’t understand how to relate to people.

The bolding (done by me, naturally) sums up that anecdote perfectly. Not all guys that go to strip clubs are skeeves, not all women that go to strip clubs are skeeves. Not all female strippers are desperately whoring themself to get by and not all male strippers are doing that. Sure, there are assholes, but we all come across assholes in our jobs too. And sure, I’m sure there are sob stories in a strip club (or among rap video girls), but go out to the farm fields around my town and you can hear some from the pickers.

Yes, that’s entirely possible. After considering this, I don’t think that’s it, though. I truly don’t think that people objectifying themselves for money is good for them, regardless of my personal likes or dislikes.