Historical myths DEBUNKED!

Well, there was Gustav Weißkopf (Whitehead) who claimed to have flown in 1901, in a sort of bat winged flying boat looking thing near Bridgeport CT, and again over Long Island Sound a year later, but there is no substantive evidence of his flights, and some of the witnesses were not even on the scene. His contraption was recreated to spec in the '50s, and it did fly, but it used modern engines and materials.
       The most important development by the Wrights was the wing warping (aileron-type action), which was a sensible notion probably related to their bicycle work (you bank into turns on a bike). No one else had built a flying machine that could be controlled like a Wright flyer, and their propeller design was without precedent.

I don’t know, but he did say “The apples of the valley hold the seeds of happiness” in his 1977 North American tour.

And it’s great that those apples are there, or else everybody would forget laughter.

Whereas Paul Revere said “I’m still a red man deep inside.”

Are you saying Hawkeye Pierce lied to me?

But he always seemed so sincere.

I realize this wasn’t where you were going with this but Revere was one of the men who dressed up as an Indian and participated in the Boston Tea Party.

My general viewpoint on the topic of Historical myths DEBUNKED! Is that a lot of history is made up.

Well made up might be too strong. Embellished? Once embellished, it spreads through popular culture. It eventually becomes accepted historical fact by the masses.

Did George Washington cross the Delaware river and defeat the Hessians at Trenton? Yes. It’s a pretty reliable historical fact. Did it look like the famous painting of said crossing? Probably not.

Expecting art to correspond 100% with the matter depicted is a mistake, art is meant to convey emotions not facts.

It’s an example of popular culture turning an historical fact into an historical myth.

Yes, sorry it wasn’t meant as a criticism, the problem is that popular culture is wrong in interpreting art as facts thus generating myths.

Yes, there were electric lightbulbs before- they lasted mere minutes. Edison invented the first Practical electric bulb,

He said that-or something very similar to a British request to surrender.

Facts turned into legends. Other stuff that sounded cool and possible- made up.

I mean I guess George and the cheery tree is possible, but comes from one single source, some time later, So doubtful. Very.

There was a feast. its been turned into a legend, along with many details.

It is also created and propagated in the interests of those with the power to have certain stories and perspectives repeated in schools, media, and government. That is more designed and effective than transmission by popular culture.

digression

Not to cause a hijack, but, my position for some while has been that the past is what we think it was. Determinism is based on a past that is set in stone, shaping the inevitable course of the future. But when we look at the past, our information about what happened seems to keep shifting. The past is only what we understand it to have been, and that information is what will shape the future, not necessariiy what actually did happen. Hence, if you can contol the past, you can change the future.

No, that was Bob Ross.

The painting was not intended to be an accurate account of the event. Emanuel Lutze painted it to hearted European reformers to keep up their fight against monarchy after the failure of the Revolutions of 1848. It was a propaganda piece, not a portrayal.

As is most “history”. After all, it is written by the victors, according to the old saying.

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And that’s the point I’m trying to make, however ineptly. The origin of historical inaccuracies, or myths, is made up or embellished stories. Or in this case a painting.

I know who painted it and when. But anybody who got a C+ in junior high American History has a vague image in their mind of that painting if the subject of Washington crossing the Delaware were to come up.

Why is that painting used in history books? Is it used in chapters regarding the American Revolution or in chapters regarding German painters in the 1800s supporting social upheaval in Europe?

It’s used in the American context. And it’s a mythological painting of of a historical event. And it’s widely accepted.

Ever?

And was it before or after he said “Hey hey mama said the way you move gonna make you sweat, gonna make you groove?”