Holy frijole, I've been making grilled cheese sandwiches wrong all these years

Yeppers. Kimchi. When I make “fancy” grilled cheese I use sourdough bread, sliced Jarlsberg cheese and Kimchi. It’s very tasty although purists would say it’s not a grilled cheese if you put anything else between the bread.

I’m also partial to Jamie Oliver’s method, Link here.

Y’know there’s a certain point, and I don’t claim to know exactly where that point is, that additional ingredients turn a grilled cheese sandwich into something else, like adding a chicken breast to a BLT doesn’t make a “CBLT,” it makes a chicken sandwich with bacon.

Of course, the better question isn’t whether something is or is not a “proper grilled cheese”, but whether it’s a good sandwich.

That said, I think that the point where something stops being a “grilled cheese sandwich” is when there’s an uninterrupted layer of something else that separates the cheese from more cheese, or from the bread. So, relish, for instance, melts in with the cheese: It’s still a grilled cheese. Tomato slices come closer, but don’t form an uninterrupted layer: There are still significant gaps. But put in a couple of slices of ham, and now you’ve got a ham-and-cheese sandwich, not a grilled cheese.

I can live with this. Basically, is the additional ingredient acting as a condiment or as main element itself? But even that, I suppose, probably has a fuzzy point somewhere.

To clarify for someone who isn’t familiar with it, “ayup” is “yup” (i.e. “yes”) with an exaggerated beginning.

(with “a” as in “ago”)

There’s a possibility that calling it a cheese toastie - as the Brits and the Dutch (and quite possibly others) do - eliminates that feeling of polluting the purity of the dish. Stick ham in it: ham and cheese toastie (or cheese and ham). Onions: cheese and onion toastie. The structure of the name (qualifier + “toastie”) means that even if just cheese - on its own - is the archetype, adding other ingredients doesn’t feel like straying from legitimate-variant-of-the-same-item territory.

What would you call a grilled cheese sandwich with a scrambled egg, bacon, lettuce, tomato, and mayonnaise? A Frankensteinean hybrid of a BLT, breakfast sandwich, and grilled cheese?

Tell me quick, ‘cause I really WANT ONE now.

needs hollandaise

I would call that delicious! Or lunch!

That point is anything other than cheese, bread, and butter or margarine.

Is a cold sandwich with cheese and tomato still a cheese sandwich? Then a grilled sandwich with cheese and tomato is still a grilled cheese. With tomato.

Not stick margarine, I hope. The whipped stuff is okay; stick is REALLY BAD for us.

Stick margarine and butter are both saturated fat, and have similar health effects. There was a time when margarine would have been mostly trans fat, but that was because we mistakenly thought that trans fat was better than saturated. Now we’ve learned better, and so trans fat pretty much isn’t used anywhere, anymore.

No. A cheese sandwich only has cheese.

A grilled sandwich with cheese and tomato is a grilled tomato and cheese.

Cheese is the lute of food. The only way it can be the main ingredient is if it’s the only ingredient.

That’s just silly, how would you have a grilled cheese sandwich if it’s just cheese; use Parmesan biscuits as the bread? :smiley:

It’s all about the tuille.

No, you’re thinking of a chupaqueso.

Did you come up with that? Because, well, that is beautiful.

The O’Cheeze menu could get you started

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54b6e472e4b05e2e7fbaa1fc/t/5a9437308165f549b5f873f4/1519662898512/Menus.jpg

They have a food truck. It sometimes stops outside this place:

(That was a good night. I wish I could remember it.)